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Re: C3G Billy Batson - Design Phase
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Re: C3G Billy Batson - Design Phase
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Also, thematically, I'm OK with it only coming into play when there's an actual threat of transformation. Quote:
2. I thought it flowed a little better, but I think you're probably right here. 3. The wording just sounded better and more "Scapey" to me. I think it's a little clearer as well. Quote:
I think we can do better too, that was just my attempt. Maybe ... SECRET IDENTITY If you also control Captain Marvel, Billy Batson starts the game on this card. ? C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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Re: C3G Billy Batson - Design Phase
In general for the theme of Secret Identities I would like to see a mechanic that shows how the super hero progresses. So start out as the non-super powered civilian version and then turn into the super hero after something happens, wound, destroy, d20 roll each turn, d20 roll each round, number of rounds, etc. I think it'd be cool for each civilian to have a different trigger before they turn into their super hero selves that sticks with the theme.
Ex: Clark Kent can only turn into Superman if he isn't within clear sight of a Human figure. Or Bruce Banner turns into Hulk after he takes a wound. |
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Re: C3G Billy Batson - Design Phase
That's how I worked it on my NM24 Bruce Banner, but I'm not sure a C3G Bruce is needed with the way our Hulk is designed.
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Re: C3G Billy Batson - Design Phase
NAME = BILLY BATSON
SPECIES = HUMAN UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO CLASS = CIVILIAN PERSONALITY = INNOCENT SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM LIFE = 4 MOVE = 5 RANGE = 1 ATTACK = 1 DEFENSE = 1 POINTS = ? SECRET IDENTITY This Billy Batson and Captain Marvel may be drafted in the same army. If you control Billy Batson and Captain Marvel, they cannot be on the battlefield at the same time. SHAZAM! When this Billy Batson is destroyed or receives any number of wounds, you may immediately remove him from the battlefield and place Captain Marvel on his space (if you control him). When that Captain Marvel is destroyed or receives any number of wounds, you may immediately remove him from the battlefield and place this Billy Batson on his space. A destroyed Billy Batson or Captain Marvel cannot be placed on the battlefield with this special power. After using this special power, each figure adjacent to this Billy Batson or Captain Marvel receive two wounds. This was a bit of an overhaul of rewriting, but I think it really works. Both figures are interchangeable with the receiving of wounds or death with no D20 roll, and they DO NOT heal from this. Also, figures adjacent to them as they "switch" receive wounds, so that is where Billy can really get his value. let me know what you think. I hope you like it. |
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Re: C3G Billy Batson - Design Phase
One thing I think is that Billy should only be drafted with Captain Marverl so we don't have to have that custom-y sounding (if you control him) in there.
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Re: C3G Billy Batson - Design Phase
When he turns from Captain Marvel into Billy Batson would you still want that to trigger 2 wounds? or just the other way around?
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Re: C3G Billy Batson - Design Phase
I like that idea.
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Re: C3G Billy Batson - Design Phase
The official game has used that type of wording several times. I don't think it is customy. Also, I don't think there is ANY reason to draft Billy without CM, so why force anyone into something they will do naturally anyways? Also, what if they just want some cheap civilians for some cool synergies down the road, they can't do that if we force them to draft their expensive super counterparts. Also, talk about complicated wording, because you have to then cover the fact that Billy can't be in an army without CM, but he can still be mind controlled and taken from another army..... messy messy messy
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Re: C3G Billy Batson - Design Phase
I realized that you would still have to cover the whole mind control aspect and "if you control him" covers all that well.
Speaking of drafting him without CM, is he really Medium 4? Anyway we can do Small 4 like on Molly and the Moloids? I think Billy could be carried by Lightspeed. |
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Re: C3G Billy Batson - Design Phase
Cool idea. Also, I am starting to like the idea of actually creating a Civilian faction, that some of these future Civilian Secret Identities can actually work well in.
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Re: C3G Billy Batson - Design Phase
I like your SHAZAM! Griff, can we shorten it like this:
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Is 2 wounds a bit too much though?? I am also fine with Tcglkn's idea to make him a Small 4. Cheers My Maps: Classic; Marvel My Customs: Dr Who | Terrain | Star Wars Card Template | Repaint & Mods | Playing Card sized Cards Helmaverse | Helmaverse League International C3G Links: C3G Super Hero Draft cards | TableTop Simulator C3G Map additions | Heroscape Dice Roller |
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