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Re: The Book of Bumblebee (Public Testing)

I still like limiting the OM move to Cybertronians and opening up the Optics boost to everybody. I’m worried that if the OM move is open to whoever, he’ll just turn into a niche ally for characters with those types of OM powers. (Cap especially)
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Re: The Book of Bumblebee (Public Testing)

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I believe Bucky is a Scout.
Yep, you're right, not sure how I forgot him.
I believe he might be the only one, though.


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Re: The Book of Bumblebee (Public Testing)

I know I brought up the range bonus for non-Cybertronians before but now I'm on board with that one being limited to just fellow Cybertronians. They have shared technology so him lending his advanced optics to help other Cybertronians shoot more accurately at longer distance makes sense where as helping Green Arrow shoot farther does not.

Since Bee is the link between the Autobots & their human allies though, it would be nice if he worked with the humans a little better than just a Carry power. While Cap certainly will be one of the best places to put a revealed OM, that interaction would be fine with be since I've seen a bunch of comic book panels featuring Capt. America and an Autobot now. It seems like he might be the point man on the powered human's side for a collaboration. It also means we could design some Joe's (Duke?) with powers that can make use of a revealed OM to help bind the GI Joe-Autobot alliance closer together going forward since that was a big comic book cross over for them or a Spike card that wanted a revealed OM on it's card. I've already worked up an idea for Prowl to want an unrevealed OM & Prime has one as well. More options going forward will slowly make Cap less of a focal point for the power.

I won't get guys set up and start testing right away, maybe Wednesday at the earliest for testing, so if we want to keep discussing it no rush to decide right at this moment on anything. I'll test whatever.
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Re: The Book of Bumblebee (Public Testing)

Seems like this is in flux. Should I hold off and test something else first?

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Re: The Book of Bumblebee (Public Testing)

Not that I see. I think we are good to continue.
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Re: The Book of Bumblebee (Public Testing)

Cool. Any suggested builds? I haven't been following this one/Transformers in general too heavily.

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Re: The Book of Bumblebee (Public Testing)

Okay, I'm still going to run that Cap test then. I'll just be sure not to move an unrevealed OM onto his card and most likely play Bee a little differently as a result. OM3 for him instead of OM1. Can I just get clarification on if moving the OM is a requirement to get the bonus move before I start testing then. I just need to know if I can't use the move power once Prime or Wreck-gar go down. If it's not a requirement, then I'd suggest changing the order to make it more clear.

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After revealing an Order Marker on this card and taking a turn with Bumblebee, if Bumblebee did not attack during his turn, you may move two additional spaces, and he may place one Order Marker from this card on another Cybertronian card you control. Bumblebee never takes leaving engagement attacks from Huge figures.
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Re: The Book of Bumblebee (Public Testing)

Doesn't seem as thought it's a requirement - the OM movement is a may and comes after the move boost.


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Re: The Book of Bumblebee (Public Testing)

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Doesn't seem as thought it's a requirement - the OM movement is a may and comes after the move boost.
I changed in the post above. In the SP the OM move comes before the move, which is what makes it a little confusing to me.

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AUTOBOT SCOUT
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and taking a turn with Bumblebee, if Bumblebee did not attack during his turn, you may place one Order Marker from this card on another Cybertronian card you control and he may move two additional spaces. Bumblebee never takes leaving engagement attacks from Huge figures.

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After revealing an Order Marker on this card and taking a turn with Bumblebee, if Bumblebee did not attack during his turn, you may move two additional spaces, and he may place one Order Marker from this card on another Cybertronian card you control. Bumblebee never takes leaving engagement attacks from Huge figures.

Not a huge deal, mostly just a final editing suggestion to help avoid arguments with rules lawyers. Unless I'm wrong about the intent here.
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Re: The Book of Bumblebee (Public Testing)

Is there any way it could just be part of his normal move? Matches Bucky and works better with Carry.
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Re: The Book of Bumblebee (Public Testing)

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Cool. Any suggested builds? I haven't been following this one/Transformers in general too heavily.
Prime and Bane is the best combo I have found. You could try some tricks with Carry.
Have not tried him with Megatron or Wreck-Gar yet. Thanks.
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Re: The Book of Bumblebee (Public Testing)

Thanks!

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