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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Starman

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
Pass
- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the game.
Pass
- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass
- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit too powerful or too weak.
Pass
- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and what are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass
- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Pass
- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass
- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass
- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass
- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Pass
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Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 150-160
- Give a brief overview. Jack did pretty well here, but 1-v-1 against similarly costed heroes is his best matchup.
Map: Custom

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes

- What should be the unit's point value? 150-160
- Give a brief overview. Jack takes on a squad and fares pretty well. Forcefield helped again.
Map: Custom
Units: Intergang Agents x1+1(4 total figures, 160 points)
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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes

- What should be the unit's point value? 150-160
- Give a brief overview. Jack takes on a horde.
Map: Custom
Units: Street Thugs x2+1(9 figures, 168.75 points)
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Army Test 1
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 150+
- Give a brief overview.Very fun battle, lots of back and forth. Jack did very well here, but some key whiffs by the opponent played a large part of that.
Map: Custom

Units: Starman (150), Captain America (240), Spider-Man (250), Sub-Mariner (250), Kid Flash (110) (1000) VS Baron Helmut Zemo (200), Booster Gold (290), Zangrief (150), Black Knight (150), Spider-Woman (210) (1000)
Unit Summary:
Damage: 2 wounds to Booster Gold, 5 to Zangrief, 1 to Black Knight.
Forcefield X: used 1 times.
Reluctant Hero: used 1 time; 2 OMs moved.

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Army Test 2
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 160
- Give a brief overview.Jack did pretty well again here, even against an all flying team. Luck was on his and his team's side again though. I'm bumping him to 160 after this.
Map: Custom

Units: Starman (150), Ms. Marvel (350), Allen the Alien (400) (900) VS Iron Man Mark V (280), Iron Man Mark IV (250), Iron Man Stealth Suit (270), Ragdoll (100) (900)
Unit Summary:
Damage: 1 wound to Ragdoll, 4 to Mark IV (who was de-powered after using Uni-Beam).
Forcefield X: used 1 times.
Reluctant Hero: used 1 time; 1 OM moved.

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Army Test 3
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 160ish
- Give a brief overview.Another solid outing for Jack, thanks to some bad rolls by the opponent.
Map: Custom

Units: Starman (160), Cecil Steadman (180), Agent Hunter (130), Mokcingbird (130) (600) VS Crime Alley Crooks x3 (195), Gambit (210), Grey Gargoyle (200) (605)
Unit Summary:
Damage: 4 wound to Gambit, 3 to Grey Gargoyle, 1 Crook destroyed.
Forcefield X: used 5 times.
Reluctant Hero: used 0 times; 0 OMs moved.

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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

All wrapped up here! I like him at 160 moving forward, Forcefield X helps him stick around and he makes a great cleanup figure. There's some nice strategy in trying to maximize his powers. Trying to keep the X on him makes him tough to play with a lot of boosts too, which is a nice thematic bonus, as Jack tends to work alone.

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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

160 is looking good to me - Pre-Yea!
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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

Cool! Excited for this one. Pre-yea
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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

Looks good! Pre-yea at 160.

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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

I propose Starman move to Public Playtesting.

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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

Yea
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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

Down to SirG already!

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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Playtesting

This Passes.

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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Playtesting

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I'm a big fan of how Starman came out. Reluctant Hero and his other powers are very thematic and make a fun design. At first I was a little worried that Reluctant Hero wouldn't be very useful due to him having to have no OMs on his card prior to activation, but it turned out that it seemed to be the right amount of useful. I think his cost may need to come up some, though I did face him entirely against walking figures, so he always had 5 attack and defense.

Overall, Jacky boy gets a big from me.

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Starman

- THEME TEST
Big Pass, though it does seem a little weird that he can use Reluctant Hero when a squad figure dies.

- MIRROR TEST
Pass

- BONDING TEST
Pass

- SYNERGIES TEST
Pass

- POWER CHECK
Pass

- FUN TEST
Pass

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST
Pass

- DRAFTING TEST
Pass

- USAGE TEST
Pass, all his powers seem to have exactly the right amount of usefulness.

- STRATEGY TEST
Pass

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Army Test 1
- Does it pass, Yes or No?
Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? 160 is a good range
- Give a brief overview. Luck was pretty wacky this game so Starman didn't get much time on the board. Despite most of the figures rolling plenty of defense dice, there were a lot of whiffed defense rolls this game (Wonder Woman, Luke Cage, Starman multiple times, Iron Fist, and Mongul all whiffed defense rolls). Plus, Wonder Woman happened to die right at the end of the round so Reluctant Hero didn't trigger.

UNIT SUM-UP
Damage: 4 wounds to Luke Cage.
Power Usage/Effectiveness:
Reluctant Hero: Never activated.
Force Field X: Was attacked 4 times, used “X” 1 times.
Aerial Advantage: Made a difference when attacking 2 times, made a difference when defending 4 times.

Map: A custom RotV x2 and TJ x1 map by ZJ (no glyphs or special rules)
Units: Starman, Mongul, Wonder Woman (800 points) VS Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Spider-Man (Miles Morales), Scarlet Spider (Ben Reilly) (810 points)
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Army Test 2
- Does it pass, Yes or No?
Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? 160 or so, maybe a little higher?
- Give a brief overview. Starman preformed well as OM safety this game, though I barely got to actually use Reluctant Hero; it allowed me to keep piling OMs on Cecil and then Spider-Woman even though they were near death or in a dangerous situation. He also did well in clean-up, sticking around for quite awhile even without Force Field X (I had to keep X off of him so that Reluctant Hero could activate) and doing some damage once it came down to just him.

UNIT SUM-UP
Damage: 1 wound to Scarecrow, 4 wounds to Carnage.
Power Usage/Effectiveness:
Reluctant Hero: Activated 1 times; order of use: took OM 3 from Cecil Stedman.
Force Field X: Was attacked 11 times, used “X” 2 times.
Aerial Advantage: Made a difference when attacking 4 times, made a difference when defending 9 times.

Map: A custom RotV x2 and TJ x1 map by ZJ (no glyphs or special rules)
Units: Starman, Cecil Stedman, Spider-Woman, Dum Dum Dugan, Agent Hunter, Mockingbird (900 points) VS Hugo Strange, Joker Goons, Scarecrow, Carnage, Scorpion (895 points)
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Army Test 3
- Does it pass, Yes or No?
Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? Higher then 160
- Give a brief overview. This game came out great for Starman. He had plenty of allies that benefited greatly from the “safety” of Reluctant Hero, and Reluctant Hero allowed him to come into the battle at crucial moments to help swing the battle for his team. Having Cap's boost is great for him, giving him 6 attack and defense in most match-ups.

UNIT SUM-UP
Damage: 2 wounds to Batman (Jean-Paul), 2 wounds to Batgirl, all 4 wounds to Oracle.
Power Usage/Effectiveness:
Reluctant Hero: Activated 2 times; order of use: took OMs 2, 3, X from Donald Ferguson, took OMs 2, 3, X from Red Hood.
Force Field X: Was never attacked.
Aerial Advantage: Made a difference when attacking 4 times.

Map: A custom RotV x2 and TJ x1 map by ZJ (no glyphs or special rules)
Units: Starman, Captain America (C3G), Donald Ferguson, Rocket Red x1, Red Hood (890 points) VS Hit-Girl, Scarlet Spider (Kaine Parker), Batman (Jean-Paul Valley), Catgirl, Batgirl (Cassandra Cain), Oracle (900 points)
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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Playtesting

The opponents were mostly non-fliers without a lot of multiple attacks, but I was already feeling like 160 might be too low. I like the way he's playing mechanically, so I'm going to bump him to 170 and see how he does.

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