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Yeah, "stupid" is too strong. That's what I get when trying to respond from work when I'm not supposed to be on the computer much and I end up rushing my responses. Perhaps "crazy" is more appropriate. Hitler was smart in the way he had tested the world in so many ways. He got himself into power because the leaders in Germany figured they could control him and his annoying party, but that backfired when he had them killed and took over for himself. He went in and took Austria, then Alsace Lorrain (sp?) and then into parts of Czechoslovakia. While there were verbal protests here and there, nobody was going to stand up to him. Chamberlain didn't want war, as England and France were still recovering from WWI. So Hitler pushed more and took the rest of Czechoslovakia then went to Poland, Holland etc. He couldn't move tanks into England and they had the best Navy around, so he tried bombing them into submission, but that made them stronger. Italy wasn't doing much to help hold up their end of the bargain. Japan pretty much overextended a bit and Midway was the turning point where we kicked them in the teeth and our industrial might was showing what it was capable of. Germany and Japan weren't the largest countries, but they had built up their military while the U.S. and England were building up their infrastructure. Both Germany and Japan had a good head start at the beginning of the war, but when push came to shove, England and the U.S. caught up and were cranking out planes, tanks, ships. I just think that for Hitler to think he could take over the entire world, it was a little bit "ambitious". Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon |
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Well said, Hahma. Whenever I consider his options during WW2, I always end up wondering what would have happened if Hitler had sued for peace in June of 1940, giving away all of the territory west of the Seine and claiming what had happened as retaliation for the bungled post-WW1 management of Germany.
~Aldin, bite-sized chunk-ly He either fears his fate too much or his desserts are small That dares not put it to the touch to gain or lose it all ~James Graham |
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Haven't had time to read the WWII debate fully, but I thought I'd point out that Stalin had thousands of troops that hadn't even been deployed when the war ended - really, the actions of the U.S. and U.K. at D Day probably helped end the war sooner and with fewer casualties, but the Soviets could probably have won without it.
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I enjoyed the program also, but there were many things they could not cover in the time they had. One of the reasons the Germans attacked Russia when they did was that Stalin was conducting a military expansion program at the time, and was quickly catching up to the Germans. Hitler actually only had a year or so when his forces would retain their clear military superiority, and the window was closing fast! So rather than give up on the whole thing, he took his shot while he still had a chance.
Our lend lease supplies were as important to Russian's war effort as our military "second front." Although Stalin attempted to hide its significance, when the Soviet Union dissolved, many 'new' photos of the Russians using US and British equipment came to light. We provided almost all of their trucks, for instance, and their vehicle shortage was why they were always riding their tanks! On the other hand, the Soviet struggle was amazing and key to our own war effort. Eisenhower's son wrote in his book that even very late in the war when we were clearly winning, once the Russians had to pause to regroup on the Eastern Front, our 'victorious' armies couldn't advance a single mile toward Germany. The TV program left out the entire key North African campaign where the US and British linked up to eventually surround all the Germans there. When the Germans surrendered 250,000 men in Tunesia at the end, that was as many as they lost at Stalingrad! Because all totalitarian alliances are uneasy and impermanent, Hitler probably felt that he had to take advantage of Japanese momentum when he could. Like his difficulty with the Italians (and Spain, for that matter, in seeking supplies) he had to take what he could get when he could get it from his 'allies'...and not let them get too far ahead of him in the race to 'conquer the world.' And let's not forget China, which is as large as the United States. We supplied them too! The Japanese, during the entire Pacific war, had to keep big armies on the Asian mainland to hold the huge coastal areas they had conquered from China to Southeast Asia, and fight battles in the China-Burma-India (CBI) Theater as well. Chas M.A. History Last edited by chas; June 4th, 2014 at 05:47 AM. |
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Great post Chas. Thanks for the added insight!
Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon |
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Thanks for the insight chas!
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A must see IMO. A cloud can change its semblance, yet retain its will With the intimacy of destruction, One knows what it is to be alive The empty sky holds no reflection, for sorrow - Eslo Rudkey |
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Yep, great movie. Also, watched Turn last night and continue to love this show. Next week's season finale looks great. Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon |
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Yeah, Enemy at the Gates is a good film. You should check out the South Korean movie My Way (2011), it is based on a true story about a Korean who was captured by the Americans on D-Day. Pretty good story that covers several different fronts of the World War. The early part of the film when the main two characters are just boys in Korea has a pretty cheesy tone, but then the war starts up and the tone changes completely and turns into a pretty serious (and good) war movie.
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There were white Russians fighting for the Germans also on D-Day. Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon |
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On another note more in-keeping with thread, watched the fourth episode of 24: Live Another Day a couple of nights ago - really enjoying it so far. Quite an improvement on the last series, IMO - that one was quite disappointing to me. |
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Check out Enemy at the Gates L_O. You will see one soldier get handed a gun and the next get bullets.
"When the man with gun dies, the man with the bullets picks up the gun." Or something like that. I read a great Piers Anthony book that had a story about that same battle and mirrored EatG quite nicely. When I saw the movie, it matched visually what I saw in my head when reading the novel. It was a surreal experience. Anyone willing to admit they watch The Originals? A cloud can change its semblance, yet retain its will With the intimacy of destruction, One knows what it is to be alive The empty sky holds no reflection, for sorrow - Eslo Rudkey |
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