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Re: The Book of Sersi (Playtesting Phase)

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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Sersi

Army Test
Map: Green Lantern (Mogo)
Units: Baron Heinrich Zemo, Red Skull (C3G), Sersi, Doctor Octopus, Super-Ape (Peotor), Blob, Skrull Infiltrator (1400) vs Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer (1400)
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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Sersi, Blob, Electro, Star-Lord (1000) vs Mystique II, Destiny, Magneto II, Quicksilver, Blink, Skrull Infiltrator (1000)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: This is a toughie. She's bound to play swingy on a scale I'm not used to seeing. (A 200 point unit that plays a little up or down isn't quite the same as what Sersi does) I think she could maybe come down to ~430, because she doesn't handle pressure well and she really sucks up your Order Markers. I could see her flying as-is, though.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: I wasn't really sure what to expect with Sersi, given how much power she's packing. I like what you've done with her, though. She's a very unique kind of centerpiece unit.
I think staying the course (or possibly a point drop to 440) is in the cards here.
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Re: The Book of Sersi (Playtesting Phase)

Well charging the FF early was probably a mistake (as even Ronin admits), and that's a nasty team with Surfer. With a solid win in the other game, I wouldn't be too quick to lower her cost. Much more encouraging results than before though!

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Re: The Book of Sersi (Playtesting Phase)

Yeah, I think this is the right power-level for her. Only question is pricing, but I'm pretty set on staying where she is.
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Re: The Book of Sersi (Design Phase)

MATTER MANIPULATION 5
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and instead of taking a turn with Sersi, you may roll 5 combat dice. For each shield rolled, you may deal place a Wound Marker on to or remove a Wound Marker from the Army Card of a figure within 4 clear sight spaces of Sersi.

TELEKINETIC TOSS 11
After moving and before attacking, you may choose either Sersi or a small or medium figure within 4 clear sight spaces of Sersi. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 11 or higher, you may place the chosen figure on any empty space within 4 spaces of its original placement. After the figure is placed, you may roll 1 unblockable attack die against that figure. Placed figures do will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

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Instead of attacking with Sersi, roll one combat die for each Wound Marker on this card. For each skull rolled, you may remove a Wound Marker from this card.

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Re: The Book of Sersi (Playtesting Phase)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Sersi

Army Test
Map: Swamp Lab
Units: Sersi (450), Magneto (I, 310), Blob (165), Jubilee (60) (985) VS Professor Xavier (220), Blink (145), Jean Grey (180), Dazzler (100), Cyclops (190), Spider-Girl (140) (975)
Unit Summary:
Damage w/normal: 2 wounds to Jean, 4 to Cyclops, 4 to Blink, 3 to Dazzler, 4 to Spider-Girl.
Matter Manipulation 5: 4 times used; 2 shields, 2 inflicted (Xavier), 0 healed.
Telekinetic Toss 11: 6 out of 9 rolls; 4 wounds (2 to Xavier, 1 to Dazzler, 1 to Cyclops).
Regeneration: 4 times used; 14 skulls out of 19 dice.

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Army Test
Map: Grundy's Grave
Units: Sersi (450), Magneto (I, 310), Blob (165), Jubilee (60) (985) VS Professor Xavier (220), Banshee (160), Jean Grey (180), Dazzler (100), Cyclops (190), Spider-Girl (140) (990)
Unit Summary:
Damage w/normal: 4 wounds to Banshee, 4 to Jean.
Matter Manipulation 5: 0 times used; 0 shields, 0 inflicted, 0 healed.
Telekinetic Toss 11: 2 out of 4 rolls; 1 wounds (1 to Xavier).
Regeneration: 2 times used; 4 skulls out of 9 dice.

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Army Test
Map: Grundy's Grave
Units: Sersi (450), Ms Marvel (350), Blob (165), (965) VS Gorilla City Warriors x4 (500), Super-Ape (Mikhlo; 200), Solovar (260) (960 points)
Unit Summary:
Damage w/normal: 1 wound to Mikhlo, .
Matter Manipulation 5: 0 times used; 0 shields, 0 inflicted, 0 healed.
Telekinetic Toss 11: 3 out of 9 rolls; 1 wounds.
Regeneration: 6 times used; 17 skulls out of 28 dice.

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FINAL THOUGHTS: I was initially worried that the changes were not going to be enough to balance Sersi, but the second and third games changed my mind. She’s still a powerhouse with very potent powers, but she’s not quite as strong as before (or as weak as some of the previous versions). The part that makes her tricky to balance is also the part that I think will end up balancing her in the end: she’s very swingy. A few solid rolls in the right spot, and she’ll dominate, miss a couple opportunities with her though, and she might be toast. I think we’re on the right track now.

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Re: The Book of Sersi (Playtesting Phase)

I think our results have been pretty consistent on that track. You can do some real damage with her, but eventually her streak always runs out. It's a matter of whether that'll be sooner or later, and how to best exploit her powers when she's hanging around.

We're pretty close to her being at an acceptable level, I think... but we don't have 100% usable mini pics yet, anyways, so no harm in waiting on some more.
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Re: The Book of Sersi (Playtesting Phase)

I'm almost done with my third test for her. I should get the results posted some time tomorrow.
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Re: The Book of Sersi (Playtesting Phase)

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Sersi

Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Sersi, Blob, Starlord, Mentallo (1000) Vs Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Human Torch(Johnny), Thing (1000)
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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Sersi, Blob, Zombie, Jean Grey, Brother Voodoo, Trapster (1200) Vs Cable, Deadpool, Deathstroke, Titanium Man, Pyro (1200)
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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Sersi, Blob, Zombie, Purple Man (900) Vs Daredevil, Robin, Batman II, Black Canary, Green Arrow (Oliver), 2xKiller Bee (900)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: She feels based at 450. Sometimes she'll earn more than her cost and sometimes less. I would definitely draft her as is.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: She's definitely fun to play and alters your opponent's strategy but if you aren't paying attention to how much life she has left she can fall before you expect her to as happened in game 3.There were a few times where she missed some key Matter Manipulation rolls. Combining her with Zombie, Blob and Maybe even Starlord cold be a potent combo. I think she's perfect as is.
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Re: The Book of Sersi (Playtesting Phase)

Awesome. So, with the current version, she's 3-5, which suggests to me a slight drop in Points to 440. But our testers (namely TB and Karat) are on the side of 450, and I'm always happy to err on the side of caution, particularly with the potential she has.

So, to make it formal, I PROPOSE WE MOVE TO FINAL EDITING!
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Re: The Book of Sersi (VOTE for Final Editing)

yea to editing

See my suggestions above

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Re: The Book of Sersi (VOTE for Final Editing)

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Re: The Book of Sersi (VOTE for Final Editing)

Whoops, missed that post entirely, SirG. Second post updated.
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