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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop
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We are not as offensively oriented as Jotun who can do quite a bit and has better bonding but we have some sustain that he the giant doesn't have either. Maybe it'll have enough wiggle room for a price reduction. |
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Not sure it should be a Troll... it is trollish, and perhaps once was a troll, but we wouldn't call a mutated human a Human.
Gore and Graft should be limited to "destroys a figure with an attack" or "destroys a figure with an attack or leaving engagement attack." There's actually a similar design going through C3V right now. (Horrific monster with multi-attack special and can heal upon killing.) We've had more than a little trouble with it because of the difficulty in balancing the added value of healing upon killing. With such a huge Life pool and decent Defense, Fo-To-Ki-Ro would be nigh unbeatable to some armies. Allowing it to bond too? I can tell you without testing that it's going to be downright unfun for those armies. |
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Oh, the miniature is a dnd dire troll though. I though I had to stick with that because of recognizable license.
https://5e.tools/bestiary/dire-troll-mtf.html Ah, is the Gobble and Graft adjustment because of something like searing amulet? That just came to mind when reading. Makes sense to specify. I can definitely move away from the bonding and work as a stand alone unit. |
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If it's, say, a beholder, it needs to be a D&D beholder because it's well-known. It would be like using a Superman miniature to be something other than Superman. A really messed-up trollish monster? Dire trolls aren't a common D&D thing, not even to D&Ders. So it doesn't have to be D&D. But it could be a D&D troll, since that's literally what it is.
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Based on NecroBlade's and Scytale's comments, and looking at established wordings (including powers like Life Drain, Bloodborn Rising, Sanguine Sword, Chilling Touch, and Lycanthropy), I would suggest the following. Optional bits are in blue since I don't know your design intent.
GOBBLE AND GRAFT Good traders: tdemirji, AbsintheAddict, Blubberguy22, Toa Matoro, SuperSamyon, Bl1ndsn1per, Ericth74,
Clipper423, Oh Freek, Nikkomon, DarthBaggins, quizzcode, Astroking112 & more on my trade list |
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It doesn't look that dissimilar to the Feral Troll to me
If he seems too solid for a unit that I'm assuming is supposed to be swingy I wonder if the original version with higher attack but lower defense might be better as heroes with 1-2 defense—no matter how strong or heavy on Life—never seem to be too egregious. ~TAF TAF was the Storyteller... in THE ENEMY'S LAST RETREAT |
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Another way to go might be something along these lines:
GOBBLE AND GRAFT... or possibly even ... When Fo-To-Ki-Ro attacks with a normal attack, he may attack one additional time for each figure on this Army Card.... or maybe even even ... When Fo-To-Ki-Ro attacks with a normal attack, he may attack one additional time for each small or medium figure on this Army Card, and up to two additional times for each large or huge figure on this Army Card.Now this is just a brainstorm and I have not analyzed it from a gameplay standpoint, but mechanically it would let him truly consume his vanquished enemies. It would also be an interesting counterdraft to respawners like zombies, Marro Warriors/Dividers/Hive, Wildwoods.... Of course, Ebon Armor and Kurrok's elementals would naturally be immune to this if you keep the construct exclusion (which seems logical), but since the list of non-fleshy/non-consumable units has grown, you may want to consider other potential exclusions. For example, Xundar's shadows would not be immune unless you add that species to the list, and the Sentinels of Grax are also not immune (they are Animata, but unlike the Ebon Armor they are not Constructs). I'm not well versed in the lore on these other-planes kinds of critters, but here's a little table of things that seem to me would be good to review for whether they should be gobblable/graftable. Code:
UNIT CLASS SPECIES multiple multiple Soulborg Air Elemental Elemental Construct Avernus Elemental Construct Boreos Elemental Construct Earth Elemental Elemental Construct Fire Elemental Elemental Construct Greater Ice Elemental Elemental Construct Water Elemental Elemental Construct Augamo Golem Construct Breach Golem Construct Iron Golem Golem Construct Lilja Golem Construct Ebon Armor Animata Construct Sentinels of Grax Animata Sentinel Shadow Binder Shadow Guard Shadow Fiend Shadow Minion Shadow Hound Shadow Hunter Fortress Door destructible object Breakable Wall Section destructible object So a "standardish" exclusion sentence nowadays could potentially look like this: Fo-To-Ki-Ro may not use Gobble and Graft on Constructs, Animata, Shadows, Soulborgs, or destructible objects. Good traders: tdemirji, AbsintheAddict, Blubberguy22, Toa Matoro, SuperSamyon, Bl1ndsn1per, Ericth74,
Clipper423, Oh Freek, Nikkomon, DarthBaggins, quizzcode, Astroking112 & more on my trade list Last edited by Just_a_Bill; July 12th, 2021 at 02:40 PM. |
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Riffing off Just_a_bill, I'd do something like this:
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Good traders: tdemirji, AbsintheAddict, Blubberguy22, Toa Matoro, SuperSamyon, Bl1ndsn1per, Ericth74,
Clipper423, Oh Freek, Nikkomon, DarthBaggins, quizzcode, Astroking112 & more on my trade list |
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Markers to indicate kills would work, though. |
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Yeah but what about that cool power name?
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Do you have a picture of this actual mini? I’m curious to see it on the board and “in action”. I’m also wondering how available it is? I haven’t seen this mini anywhere before.
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