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Trading playtests could be another good avenue to pursue, though if the reason that some units aren't getting many playtests is just because people don't want to play with them, then we might need to rethink some things.
I share Capt. Stupendous' concerns about wanting existing pod members to feel important, albeit the system is really set up to have 7 different votes, when none of our pods are hitting those numbers right now. In any case, I'd want to stress that the goal of adding members to pods is not to redesign units, but to finish them. I think that the majority of our designs are in a pretty nice place, and I really don't want to undo any work. Unless the design is showing major flaws in Testing or something, then I think that adding the PLs should just be used to close out the design with enough activity to keep the project moving. This also was the original plan to ensure that pods are completed, but I'm fine with ensuring that the remaining active members don't mind the help. The Pod Main Threads would be a good place to do a status check and discuss on a pod-by-pod basis if members want the extra help. Proud Member of Platyfly!
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Will all the figures be on their cards unpainted? I would probably paint mine either way depending on the unit. I was just wondering if there was going to be official paint jobs for some minis like C3G & C3V have done before. There could be a painted and unpainted version of each card on units that needed paint.
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You can see the full list of the miniatures we are using here: https://www.heroscapers.com/communit...37&postcount=2 And feel free to take a look and drop a comment in any of the threads. As a project we really appreciate the community's input! |
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Tagging all the current pod leads to propose a change to our process. Currently, designs can't enter playtesting until after going through the Editing process. I think the editing process is very important, both in guaranteeing the quality of designs and increasing the legitimacy of the project as a whole (especially in terms of VC compatibility). However, I'm not sure it still makes sense to hold playtesting until after the checklist has been run, given the current backlog of designs waiting in editing (Alabaster Sentinels entered editing February 1, and Katryn Vade entered editing February 26). What I'd propose is that, if the checklist hasn't been run within 2 weeks of a design entering Editing, the design will proceed to the Playtesting phase, and the title of the thread changed to reflect that design's unedited status. So, the thread title for the Alabaster Sentinels would read: [Pod 2] Alabaster Sentinels (Rhox Veterans) - Playtesting (Unedited). The design would still need to pass the checklist before leaving Playtesting, but at least this way designs wouldn't be stalled out for 6+ months before officially entering the playtesting phase. I realize this solution isn't ideal, and there's the chance that Editing might reveal a significant flaw in a design after a significant amount of playtesting has already occurred. However, I think at this point I'm willing to take that risk if it means maintaining momentum on designs. |
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I'm ok with this to give us a broader ability to playtest (though personally my constraint is the ability to keep something set up at home). I think someone running the checklist when they can is fine as well. Should we couple this with adding all PLs to all current units? Then maybe we can collectively, systematically tackle one unit at a time? There are some minor syngeries here and there, but largely it doesn't matter too much the order in which units get 'finalized'.
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Some quick updates before delving into Capt. S' proposal:
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Given that Pod Leaders must move designs forward, though, I think that I'd be okay with changing up our procedure to allow for more immediate playtesting after a design is ready, so long as a careful eye is kept on any potential interactions like this. The hope would be that between so much collaboration, Public Feedback, and the second Design pass, pretty much every kink has been ironed out and any mechanical changes ensuing from Editing would be fairly minor and incur just a bit more testing. I would like to hear from Scytale on this as well, though; my thought is that this might save him more time to avoid potentially multiple editing passes if something changes in playtesting, but he could very well disagree and have a preference for the current (or a different) order. Proud Member of Platyfly!
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Honestly, I didn't realize I had units to edit, certainly not ones that have been sitting around a while. A downside to not having a formal process with distinct subforums.
I don't mind stuff being playtested before edited, but I find it fairly likely that designs will see changes at the editing phase. While there are some VC sanctum members in here, a lot of those here aren't and are not as familiar with rules pitfalls and how to rework powers to best fit into the core system. That said, those changes won't often be huge ones. |
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Point 2 is good as well. If I find time for it, I can try to help out with this, too. Arena of the Valkyire - Help create Heroscape's next Master Set! Trade List C3V Brainstorm never not funny Pepperony - 14/09/13 |
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Is there something that you would like to change about our process? I think that we should definitely be open to changing things to smoothen everything out--I'm not sure if we need subforums for each phase of the process like C3V has, given that we typically limit our in-progress designs, but if that would make things easier, then it's definitely worth looking into. It's also worth noting that this problem will also get exacerbated as more units are finalized, unless we separated into at least an "In Progress" and a "Completed" section... At which point, it might be easier to go the full mile. I do also maintain the Books of Index Thread pinned in this subforum with the status of each unit and a quick post whenever they change phases. If it would be preferable, I can lock that thread to where the only posts in it are status changes, making it easy to subscribe to. Quote:
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I wasn't planning on spending much time on the playtesting cards; a quick grab from the X2 Card Creator with structured text from the OP was pretty much my plans. Proud Member of Platyfly!
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If you search AotV in the gallery, I uploaded what I currently have. Most if not all of them should be up-to-date. Ozuul is actually the single-power version, and I will need to make the card for the new Honored Soul-Guides.
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Hey guys, sorry for being relatively MIA lately. I recently found out that I'll be moving in about a month or two, so I can't make any promises long-term, but I plan to get caught up on everything here before then. There's not too much more work left to finish out a lot of the current units!
Proud Member of Platyfly!
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