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Old July 16th, 2019, 09:40 PM
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Old July 16th, 2019, 09:45 PM
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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

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Yeah, I agree with the points being brought up concerning game play. If not going with bonding, then one OM reveal on the Drone needs to move and/or attack with multiple figures at once or the OM's will mostly end up on Ultron. Nobody's idea from above seems worth trying out. Reveal OM on Drone, either move & att. with 1 Drone, move 2 drones, or attack with 2 drones. Combine that with the earlier reroute lost OM's to another Drone card power would seem to be a good set of powers, along with Tough and higher defense. Kind of like the 3 life uncommon approach here over 1 life common figures. Too many auto wound powers that can bypass a 7 def. figure for an easy kill. With 3 life, those auto-wound powers are not taking them out as quickly.
I think there's totally enough room for multiple Common/Uncommon Ultron designs, so it seems like the best route here is just to pick what variation we're doing right now. Are these weaker loser robots like in the end of the AoU movie or are these slightly sturdier guys?

Whatever we end up doing, I really like COGS IN THE MACHINE for a power name. Danthem came up with it for the Iron Legion Drones and it's stuck with me ever since.

Just another odd idea that I figured I'd throw out there, but what if these guys had an identity of Ultron and a SI of Drone? They are Ultron after all, and it would allow for the option to just tag all Ultron units for synergy purposes if we ever wanted to.
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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

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I do agree with Ronin that it seems like the superior strategy right now would be to hide the Drones in your SZ and load up on OMs for Ultron himself, which just seems backwards.
It's also exactly why I'm not satisfied with the Doombots. It's kind of boring play.


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Only thing I am thinking about tweaking on the design is allowing you to move OMs when with the first power if the figure with them gets destroyed.
Just make them common heroes.
Oh I like that. Up their defense to compensate.

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My approach to the Drone Networking power would be more like... just moving a bunch of them on Ultron's turn, maybe attacking with one. I think kind of iconically they're not really doing a ton of damage so much as they're just dogpiling the Avengers and keeping them tied down while Ultron does Ultron stuff.
Yes please.


AGE OF ULTRON
After revealing an Order Marker on Ultron or a Drone you control, and before moving him, roll the 20-sided die.
• If you roll 1-10, you may move a Drone you control.
• If you roll 11-18, you may move up to 3 Drones you control.
• If you roll 19 or higher, you may move with up to 5 Drones you control.

You may then attack with any one Drone you control. Even if that Drone was not chosen to move by this power.

Numbers can be adjusted in just riffing here.

It does allow for two drones to attack should Ultron not be in play.

Also MrN ninjad me but that idea of calling them all Ultron works here.

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Old July 16th, 2019, 11:00 PM
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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

I'd lower each tier there by about 3 or 4.

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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

What about something like this:

AGE OF ULTRON
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and before taking a turn with this ULTRON Drone, you may take a turn with one additional ULTRON Drone for each Order Marker on ULTRON.

Allows them to swarm, ties them neatly into ULTRON, keeps the focus on ULTRON himself.


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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

That’s pretty cool, but would also allow 4 Drone turns, so they would probably have to be weaker, right?
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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

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Thatís pretty cool, but would also allow 4 Drone turns, so they would probably have to be weaker, right?
If you do 4 turns it's only once per round, though. Or you could do 3 turns twice per round, or 2 turns three times per round. Probably something you could do with Order Marker rearrangement, but not sure you can get much more than 6 turns per round out of them, which isn't bad, especially if their attack isn't too high.

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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

Well I’m thinking with this set-up;
OM1: Drones
OM2-OMX: Ultron
You’re getting 6 turns per round. Nothing crazy, but 2 of those turns are with a fairly powerful Event Hero. So how powerful should the Drones be then to keep it balanced?

Like I said before, I really like them at 80 points to allow for 4 Drones and Ultron at 1000. One of the most frustrating things about the OLs for the longest time was that it was technically impossible to get them to a round number of points. Sure, you could make a 1,010 point army or something similar, but that would never fly in a more competitive setting. At 100, the Ultron Drones will only allow for builds that end in 80.
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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

This appears to be where we are leaning

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NAME = Ultron

SPECIES = ANDROID
UNIQUENESS = UNCOMMON HERO
CLASS = DRONE
PERSONALITY = EFFICIENT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 2

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 3
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 3

POINTS = 80


AGE OF ULTRON
After revealing an Order Marker on an Uncommon or Event Hero Ultron you control, and before moving him, roll the 20-sided die.
• If you roll 1-6, you may move a Drone you control.
• If you roll 7-18, you may move up to 3 Drones you control.
• If you roll 19 or higher, you may move with up to 5 Drones you control.

You may then attack with any one Drone you control. Even if that Drone was not chosen to move by this power.

ADAMANTIUM TOUGH
When rolling defense dice against a normal attack, this Ultron Drone always adds one automatic shield to whatever is rolled. This Ultron Drone's Defense number cannot be reduced by any special power.

ULTRON IMPERATIVE 4
Whenever this Ultron Drone is chosen for Ultron’s Program Transmission 20 special power, add 4 to the 20-sided die roll.

SUPER STRENGTH

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I thought we were dropping to regular Tough, as they aren't made of Adamantium?


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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

Right. I forgot to change that too.

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Re: The Book of Ultron Drones - Breathing Period

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