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Old October 12th, 2018, 09:45 AM
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Re: The Book of Jessica Jones - Waiting for Initial (Hold)

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People will complain if she doesn't work with Cage. People will complain if we give her a power that makes her work too well with Cage. She fights things. My vote is B.
I don't think people would complain about her working too well. The complaint was more that the direction she was working (as a back-up LEADER) was the issue.

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Old October 12th, 2018, 10:31 AM
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Re: The Book of Jessica Jones - Waiting for Initial (Hold)

Hey, give it time. I could still give up. (This is still on hold until we find a solid direction).

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Old October 12th, 2018, 10:41 AM
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Re: The Book of Jessica Jones - Waiting for Initial (Hold)

I'd go B. If not B, then a dual class. Don't understand the desire to have her team with other Investigators over people she actually teams with. I figured that's why we use things like "Adventurer" and "Criminal" as broad strokes. She fights, she fights crime, she investigates. These are all things she does, and all applicable IMO. Choose the one that puts her in thematic armies.
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Old October 12th, 2018, 10:49 AM
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Re: The Book of Jessica Jones - Waiting for Initial (Hold)

Really agree with Arkham's reasoning here. I think if Fighter wins out on the poll I'll be able to go forward with a strong and clear direction for her that focuses on her more as an individual investigator with her Pound the Pavement power, but if we end up stuck on Investigator I'm going to be pretty lost on direction.

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Re: The Book of Jessica Jones - Waiting for Initial (Hold)

I think it's tension between making sense in a faction and making sense in a vacuum. In a vacuum, there's no reason for her to be anything but an Investigator. In a wider context, her faction really wants her to be a Fighter. That's really a question of design ethos.

I'll always choose the vacuum option in these places though. I'd want a fan of a character, with nothing but the original Marvel Master Set, to be able to look at any of our cards and immediately say: wow, that's perfect, it's just what he/she/they should be!
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Old October 12th, 2018, 11:08 AM
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Re: The Book of Jessica Jones - Waiting for Initial (Hold)

Which is to say we either want a design that looks good or plays well. If I have to choose, I'd prefer plays well.

I know people will respond that I don't have to choose, but nobody in this thread has convinced me of that yet.

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Re: The Book of Jessica Jones - Waiting for Initial (Hold)

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I think it's tension between making sense in a faction and making sense in a vacuum. In a vacuum, there's no reason for her to be anything but an Investigator. In a wider context, her faction really wants her to be a Fighter. That's really a question of design ethos.

I'll always choose the vacuum option in these places though. I'd want a fan of a character, with nothing but the original Marvel Master Set, to be able to look at any of our cards and immediately say: wow, that's perfect, it's just what he/she/they should be!
This is where I just think it comes down to a difference of perception and opinion.

To me, what Bats has power wise captures the character. What's written in for the class could be any of the 3 options and still ring true to the character from a fan's perspective, and the power set is still going to cover all the key aspects of the character. Her personality, occupation, and powers are covered with her reluctance to be a hero, rough investigating, and mental strength. Her class is just dictating who she is played with and what armies she will work well with. I don't think a fan is going to feel any less immediate recognition with her as a Fighter or Crime Fighter vs. Investigator. And once that fan understands how synergy works, they'd be much more appreciative to be able to play her best in a thematic army, similar to Daredevil II.
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Re: The Book of Jessica Jones - Waiting for Initial (Hold)

Having someone with a class that feels appropriate but doesn't fit them into the right synergy was what made the second Daredevil necessary in the first place. Ideally I'd prefer a dual class, but I'm going to have to say Fighter.
Doing anything else would be like giving Bucky a power that allows him to bond with Soldiers and then making Captain America a Leader. Both thematic in a vacuum, but it screws up what should be a close thematic tie. (Not that I'm fond of Leader as a class anyway, but still...)


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Re: The Book of Jessica Jones - Waiting for Initial (Hold)

I believe I've also been swung by numerous people. I'm switching to Fighter.

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Re: The Book of Jessica Jones - Waiting for Initial (Hold)

Not feeling that. I’ve heard of Pounding the Pavement. I have no idea what Rough Investigating is ...

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Re: The Book of Jessica Jones - Waiting for Initial (Hold)

I agree, if there was no 'investigator' themed power on her card then I'd be more interested in seeing that bit of theme represented in her class, but since she clearly has a detective power on her card already then the class is more importantly used for themed armies.
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