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Re: The Book of Black Bat - Vote for Initial

I'm not really concerned given that Black Canary does similar things and is easier to fit in a Star-Lord builds since she's a Metahuman.

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Re: The Book of Black Bat - Vote for Initial

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I'm not really concerned given that Black Canary does similar things and is easier to fit in a Star-Lord builds since she's a Metahuman.
Sure, I think the only real concern here is that she might come in at a higher cost than Canary, if Defensive Premonition >> Canary Cry (which I think it probably is in Unique Hero heavy match ups).

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Re: The Book of Black Bat - Vote for Initial

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Re: The Book of Black Bat - Design Phase

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I propose we move Black Bat to Initial Playtesting.

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This proposal passes.

I'll get to the Initial soon, though I might try to knock out some other playtesting first.

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Re: The Book of Black Bat - Initial Playtesting

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Black Bat (@190 points)

Hero & Squad Tests:
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Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl (no glyphs or special rules)
Units: Black Bat (with Bolas), Nomad, Nite Owl, Robin (Dick), Robin (Damian) Catgirl, Oracle (800 points) VS Luke Cage, Robot, Spider-Man (C3G), Human Torch (Jim) (800 points)
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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl (no glyphs or special rules)
Units: Black Bat (with Bolas), Nomad, Nite Owl, Robin (Dick), Robin (Damian) Catgirl, Oracle (800 points) VS Luke Cage, Robot, Spider-Girl, Iron Fist (800 points)
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Army Test 3
Map: Conflict Chernobyl (no glyphs or special rules)
Units: Black Bat (with Kryptonite Gauntlets), Masahiro Arashi, Lady Shiva, Ubu, Hand Ninja x3 (890 points) VS Ms. Marvel, Cyborg Superman, Starman (Jack) (900 points)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I ran all of these games with her at 190 points, and that seems to be about perfect. Like Black Canary, Black Bat is an offensive beast when she can get into melee, but even with Defensive Premonition, Black Bat doesnít seem to last long. 190 is the absolute ceiling for her points in my opinion (she shouldnít come in higher than Black Canary or be on Batmanís level), and for now thatís where Iíll leave her; but if further testing shows her to be stronger than that, Iíll want to look into some tweaks.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Not an overly exciting design as she has three reused powers and fills a similar role as the other Vigilantes in the high-100s, but she was fun to play and fits the character well. Fists of Fury is always fun when you can pull off a string of attacks, and Utility Belt 1 gives her just enough flexibility to make her always feel useful.

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Re: The Book of Black Bat - Initial Playtesting

Looking good so far. I have a feeling she may need tweaked down, but I'm willing to go to public as-is.

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Re: The Book of Black Bat - Design Phase

I propose we move Black Bat to Public Playtesting at 190 points.

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Re: The Book of Black Bat - Vote for Public Playtesting

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This would pass on time, but we're short on votes; @Karat , @SirGalahad , we just need your votes to pass this.

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