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Old January 23rd, 2009, 12:12 PM
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Re: Utgar needs a new dragon

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Utgar needs a new NOTHING for a while. Let the other generals get some units under their belts.
Utgar is lacking if anything, The 4 generals + Aquilla joined forces to fight Utgar.......Give them a reson, more dragons, marrows, orcs, undead, anything that will make Utgar a force to be reconed with.
Or just have Vydar switch sides and join up with Utgar in the next Master Set (named Vydars Betrayal).
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 12:42 PM
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Isn't Sujoah basically Aquilla's dragon?

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Old January 23rd, 2009, 01:06 PM
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Re: Utgar needs a new dragon

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Utgar needs a new NOTHING for a while. Let the other generals get some units under their belts.
Utgar is lacking if anything, The 4 generals + Aquilla joined forces to fight Utgar.......Give them a reson, more dragons, marrows, orcs, undead, anything that will make Utgar a force to be reconed with.
Or just have Vydar switch sides and join up with Utgar in the next Master Set (named Vydars Betrayal).
I thought Vydar was sided with Utgar for a while, then switched sides.
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Re: Utgar needs a new dragon

I'm not really sure as I don't know the story line all that well. I thought Einar was with Utgar at first though, then switched sides. I also thought I read somewhere that Vydar does not have much Kyrie support. So he seems like a good canidate to switch to the side of evil to me. Plus he is loaded up with ranged units, something Utgar themed armies could use more of. So the two of them together would make for good allies IMO.
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Re: Utgar needs a new dragon

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Isn't Sujoah basically Aquilla's dragon?
By that logic, Su-Bak-Na's steed is another dragon for Utgar.

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Isn't Sujoah basically Aquilla's dragon?
By that logic, Su-Bak-Na's steed is another dragon for Utgar.

There we are kids: Utgar already has two dragons.
Ya, but utgar still needs a new dragon; his dragons are flower girls compared to the good guys' dragons.

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Isn't Sujoah basically Aquilla's dragon?
By that logic, Su-Bak-Na's steed is another dragon for Utgar.

There we are kids: Utgar already has two dragons.
Ya, but utgar still needs a new dragon; his dragons are flower girls compared to the good guys' dragons.
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Re: Utgar needs a new dragon

I'd start off by saying that I think Utgar doesn't need anything new anytime soon. Although I'm not crazy about Mimring, I think that he fulfills the dragon requirement, and that to add anything more to Utgar right now would just be overkill.

Not only that, but there seems to be a lot of folks saying that everyone needs a dragon. Let me agree with Onacara's stance of "Why does everyone have to be equal?" Dragons are great and all, but you simply do not have to have one for every general. Instead, how about some more variety?

Let me bring up Heroes of Might and Magic III, which was (to me, at least), a spiritual ancestor of HeroScape. You've got eight different factions, each with a town that can recruit a number of different monsters of ascending strength, each with two forms-- a basic, and an upgraded one. Three of those eight had dragons as their top beast, including a bone/ghost dragon for the Necropolis, seen here:



A bit like Su Bak Na, hmm? Moving along. Three of the other towns could recruit angels/archangels, devils/arch devils, giants / titans (shades of Jotun, there), awesome-looking critters called behemoths...


(personal favorites of mine)

...and finally, you've got a swamp town which could recruit hydras...



I'd give a not-so-subtle nudge to Aquila in that direction, being as she's so very swampy. My point is that all of these creatures were top-tier threats, and yet there was all kinds of asymmetry in their design. Dragons are lovely, but how about some more variety? A dragon-sized mecha for Vydar? That might be cool. A gigantic scorpion for Aquila? Also good.

Variety = good!

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Re: Utgar needs a new dragon

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How does a giant bug = a dragon?

By that logic then Jotun is a 2nd dragon for Ullar.

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Re: Utgar needs a new dragon

I do agree that Mimring is somewhat of a paper tiger. But, if you aren't careful around him, you could get a serious paper cut!


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I do agree that Mimring is somewhat of a paper tiger. But, if you aren't careful around him, you could get a serious paper cut!
Ya, and then it could get infected.
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Re: Utgar needs a new dragon

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Isn't Sujoah basically Aquilla's dragon?
How does a giant bug = a dragon?

By that logic then Jotun is a 2nd dragon for Ullar.
Well Sujoah is a dragonfly right? So that must make him Aquilla's dragon. Well sort of. Okay not really.

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