The Book of Puppet Master

[Hahma]

That would be much easier, you are Indubitably brilliant today.

[IAmBatman]

I like it! Though it does eliminate some strategy when facing him (do I attack Puppet Master now or not - that type of thing).

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by Griffin

I think this is simpler and better.

REACTIVE MIND CONTROL
Before a figure with a Marionette Marker rolls takes a turn, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll an 10 or higher the attacking figure's turn ends immediately and you may move that figure up to 3 spaces.

Just change the 'an' to an 'a', and the power will sound great. Of course if I may, quote myself from earlier today:

Originally Posted by Griffin

MARIONETTE
At the start of the game place a Marionette Marker on the Army Card of up to 4 Unique Hero's controlled by your opponent. I really think that this should work for Heroes in his army as well.

Thanks for your patience and your time with the reading, I hope I made sense and I look forward to your opinions and your feelings.

~ Griffin, who knows a bit about these dealings

[A3n]

I am not oppossed to Marionette working on his own team as well, so we can just remove the "controlled by your opponent" limitation.

I don't mind the change to Reactive Mind Control (BTW not oppossed to anybody suggesting a better name also) but should we include a clear line of sight limitation as I designed this as more as a reactionary power where the other is a planned move.

Also as an FYI, it has been pointed out to me recently that Targetting, contrary to the rule book, doesn't required a ranged attack. The official precendence for this is the Zombie Onlslaught Special Attack.

"Range 1. Attack 6.
Three Zombies of Morindan on the same level may combine their attacks and roll their attack dice as one attack. All Zombies of Morindan in the attack must be engaged to the targeted figure"

Cheers

[Griffin]

I am going to ignore their shortcoming with that poorly chosen word in the Zombies power, and expect them to change it when they reprint the card with an errata. It was a mistake.

I think that PM is sooo weak, he needs the help by not requiring Clear Sight for Reactive Mind Control. which I like the name of personally.

[A3n]

Originally Posted by Griffin

I am going to ignore their shortcoming with that poorly chosen word in the Zombies power, and expect them to change it when they reprint the card with an errata. It was a mistake.

Is that a hopeful wish

Originally Posted by Griffin

I think that PM is sooo weak, he needs the help by not requiring Clear Sight for Reactive Mind Control. which I like the name of personally.

I agree that he is weak & it probably would change a great deal whether it was LOS or not, I just think for it to be a reactive power thematically he would have to see them take their turn before being able to control them.

Cheers

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by A3n

Is that a hopeful wish

I agree that he is weak & it probably would change a great deal whether it was LOS or not, I just think for it to be a reactive power thematically he would have to see them take their turn before being able to control them.

Cheers

Well he does have some type of Scifi/mystic connection with the people he has molded with the Radioactive Clay, so I think the Theme is 100% justifiable that as they try to do one thing, he forces them to do something else, whether he can see them or not is irrelevant.


and yes, that is hopeful thinking, but it is also an educated guess considering how they do like to update the cards as they are reprinted, and that is clearly a mistake.

[GreyOwl]

Originally Posted by Griffin

and yes, that is hopeful thinking, but it is also an educated guess considering how they do like to update the cards as they are reprinted, and that is clearly a mistake.

The thing is, is the card the mistake or is the rulebook the mistake?

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by GreyOwl

The thing is, is the card the mistake or is the rulebook the mistake?

I am 100% sure that the card is. That is based on the rulings for the Nakita's mostly. I am 100% positive that the rulebook's definition for Targeting is EXACTLY how they intended it, and the old Zombie card was an oversight. That is based on countless discussions of the rules team and others talking about Targeting.

[GreyOwl]

I can buy that.

[IAmBatman]

It might have something to do with it being an odd situation where they're attacking as a group. Those types of attacks are certainly not conventional.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Can I just say that I absolutely HATE Puppetmaster as a character, he is so lame...but you all have actually managed to make him seem cool. I like that he is frail physically, but his powers make him formidible, it is very true to the source material.