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[keglo]

Originally Posted by Kajoq

12 cards equaling at most 200 points.

It's a bit of a hassle for quick pick up games unless you use the pre-fab decks. There's an excel deckbuilder now that's very helpful for speeding it up though

Yeah that 200 point thing is a pain. Well at least I know now. Thank you.

[TREX]

@keglo , Innistrad brings it back down to 500pt armies if I'm not mistaken. Still 200pt up to 12 card decks though.

[keglo]

Originally Posted by TREX

@keglo , Innistrad brings it back down to 500pt armies if I'm not mistaken. Still 200pt up to 12 card decks though.

Really? Why would they keep changing it like that? Was the 600 points meant for the Zendikar scenario only? I only played the one 600 point game but I liked it.

@Kajoq thank you for letting me know about the spreadsheet. It will indeed make it easier.

[Kajoq]

Innistrad just lists 500 points because that's all the box includes.

Zendikar lists 600 because you really need that to fit the Zendikar squads in.

It's really up to the community to decide what 'standard' should be (imo, 600 army 200 deck is where I feel it should be right now)

I think an argument could be made for increasing deck size, while keeping the allocation per card about the same (200/12 ~ 16.66 a card) So maybe 18 cards 300 points? Especially once we get another 1-2 sets worth of cards to work with

Right now you can pretty much guarantee the same sequences of buffs/enchants/counters in every game. It'd be nice to have the deck be a little more decision based.

[keglo]

Originally Posted by Kajoq

Innistrad just lists 500 points because that's all the box includes.

Zendikar lists 600 because you really need that to fit the Zendikar squads in.

It's really up to the community to decide what 'standard' should be (imo, 600 army 200 deck is where I feel it should be right now)

I think an argument could be made for increasing deck size, while keeping the allocation per card about the same (200/12 ~ 16.66 a card) So maybe 18 cards 300 points? Especially once we get another 1-2 sets worth of cards to work with

Right now you can pretty much guarantee the same sequences of buffs/enchants/counters in every game. It'd be nice to have the deck be a little more decision based.

That makes sense. Now I can still play 600 point armies while feeling all warm and fuzzy because I’m not breaking any official rules. And yes it would be nice if decks where decision based.

[TREX]

@keglo , why not try them out using 300 point decks. As long as both parties have the same point value worth of cards and figures, who's to stop you from having as much fun as you possibly can. That might be pretty fun to have that much magic in the deck. I have been toying with the idea of using multiple planeswalkers for big games with a mixed double deck.

[caps]

I'm hoping we see 600 points (or even 650) for armies in tournament formats. I think 12 cards at 20 points is interesting enough for now.

[keglo]

Originally Posted by TREX

@keglo , why not try them out using 300 point decks. As long as both parties have the same point value worth of cards and figures, who's to stop you from having as much fun as you possibly can. That might be pretty fun to have that much magic in the deck. I have been toying with the idea of using multiple planeswalkers for big games with a mixed double deck.

And break the official rules?!?

I might just try that.

[Colorcrayons]

We tried using 18 and 24 card decks in 100 point intervals. (400 and 500 points respectively)

It doesn't really change the dynamic, it just lengthens the game. 24 cards was just way too much (we did this with multiple copies if the base set last year). 18 was a lot better.

But then again, we didn't use the '1x of each named card rule', and did some intensive deck building using three sets. I'm glad that the deck building rules are 1x, since colors like Blue Red and Black dominated with Green and White being so far behind.

I haven't tried the build a deck beyond 12 cards since we got official word about 1x.

[The B.I.V.]

Originally Posted by keglo

And break the official rules?!?

I might just try that.

There are no "official rules" as far as point values go. So far AotP has been heavily scenario-based, so you just play with the scenario point values. I don't think there have been any major AotP tourneys so tournament values have yet to be decided...

[caps]

There was a Planeswalker tournament at GenCon this year, hosted by the Heroscape organizers. It was 500 points to allow people with only the original base set to participate. Hopefully future events will be at least 600 points--I don't think 500 points leaves enough room for dynamic armies.

[Rathburn]

This question came up in my game. Is there a range limit for spell cards. I am aware of the range that is specific to some spells. But what about the cards that don't have any specific range?