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Re: The Book of Baron Mordo - Vote for Initial (Mesmerise)
V brought this up when we were talking today, but Mesmerize could be an issue in balance terms, and it's certainly going to come in much higher than you project right now. We ran into this issue with Images of Ikonn. Avoiding an attack can easily be worth 40-50 points for a Magical Defense figure. Coming before the attack will bring it down some, but if the interaction with Mordo is in there, it's still going to come in fairly high. Not sure how you fell about that.
Also, if there is an interaction with Mordo, I don't think the spell necessarily needs to be tested first. We should make sure it's not too strong with another unit, but it can be tested alongside him like any design-specific glyphs are. So I'll hold off on voting for now. As for Mordo himself, I like the design. Definitely think the anti-negation aspect can go because Strange seems a certainty to changed now. If you want to hold up a little while that gets sorted out though, I understand. ".... the Cambridge ladies do not care, above Cambridge if sometimes in its box of sky lavender and cornerless, the moon rattles like a fragment of angry candy" |
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Re: The Book of Baron Mordo - Vote for Initial (Mesmerise)
That last version you posted definitely doesn't fit on the card on the smallest of text settings and spacing that we allow, the last 2 words in Magical Defense are cut off. That's with the Flying and Superstrength symbols not on the card, which means it's not even close to being able to fit with them on.
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Re: The Book of Baron Mordo - Vote for Initial (Mesmerise)
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Going to really have to think about what TrollBrute said - I really have no idea what we're doing now, I wish someone had brought this stuff up earlier instead of waiting until I try to get the process moving... Looks like this guy may be on hold for a while. |
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I think Mesmerize should still get tested on its own to firm up a cost, so I'd recommend going ahead with the plan to test Mesmerize. Strange's situation will be pretty much cemented by the time Mesmerize has a few tests in. If you want it to come in lower, put the vote on hold and let's workshop some changes before calling another vote for initial. If you're okay with it being expensive, keep the vote open. |
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As for Strange holding him up, it shouldn't take very long for us to hash out a direction, and you won't have to wait for him to be officially changed to keep moving here. Hashing out Mesmerize and the other powers should be the focus for now. ".... the Cambridge ladies do not care, above Cambridge if sometimes in its box of sky lavender and cornerless, the moon rattles like a fragment of angry candy" |
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Ideally, I'm looking at 35 for Mesmerise. In an ideal world, I'd have Mesmerise at 35 and Mordo at 265 so that they come in at 300 altogether. If we miss that by a bit, though, it aint the end of the world, and I can accept, say, 40 for Mesmerise. 50 feels a bit high to me, though. |
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Re: The Book of Baron Mordo - Vote for Initial (Mesmerise)
Sorry I haven't posted yet. I definitely like the design, but yeah, Mesmerize is likely to come in pretty costly; not that there's anything really wrong with that, just something to be aware of.
Just spitballing, but for Hypnotic Arts, what about: Quote:
Than to go with that, Mesmerize could be toned down to something like: Quote:
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Without getting too carried away, I like that direction.
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The one thing I'm wondering about there is the fact that this version is open to affecting Common/Squad figures. I actually love that idea - my original concept had Mordo able to control them because I liked the idea of him doing so - but I cut that worrying that there may be mechanical issues. If there aren't any, or we can find a way round them, then I'd love to do that, but if they are there, I'm happy to go back to only affecting Unique Heroes. But yeah - assuming no objections, this is the version I'm going with, moving forward. Quote:
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Re: The Book of Baron Mordo - Vote for Initial (Mesmerise)
The reason why I was vague is because when I suggested we create some hard limits/parameter I was told it wasn't needed by the other heroes and so the exact rules were purposefully left vague by the others. Ronin was allowed to run 3 Hellfire spells for free and at one point Arkham was working on multiple Elemental spells for Zatanna II with no issues, so I guess just ask the other heroes for their blessing to add another spell if you want to do another one. You have my okay as I'm all for having a bunch of spells available when we release the new spell casting system.
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Re: The Book of Baron Mordo - Vote for Initial (Mesmerise)
Okay, in that case I'm actually probably going to just do this guy and then work on Spells until either the Spell Set is ready for release or the Heroes tell me I'm pushing my luck. If that's okay, anyway - I'd really like to pad this release as much as possible.
~ Lazy Orang, who's probably going to give this a day to rest and then re-propose a vote for Initial for Viegon's new version of Mesmerise. |
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