The Book of Scarlet Witch (II)

[johnny139]

Yea

[Arkham]

Yeah I originally had a resurrection power which was pushing the cost a bit. I’m fine with this falling lower if it does. 255 would be nice actually to pair with Blink for a block of 400.

[Karat]

That would be cool

[Arkham]

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Scarlet Witch (II)

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Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Scarlet Witch(255), Blink(145), Sabretooth(270), Wild Child(160) (830)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Jessica Jones(220), Swordsman(160) (830)

Spoiler Alert!

Normal Attack Damage:


Hex Phenomena 6:
R1T3: removes 1 marker to force enemy Luke Cage to re-roll 2 shields. No shields rolled. He takes 3 wounds instead of 1.
R1T3: removes 1 marker to force enemy Luke Cage to re-roll 2 shields. No shields rolled. He takes 1 wound instead of 0, killing him.
R2T1: removes 1 marker to allow Sabretooth to re-roll 4 shields. Turns them into 3 skulls rolled. Results in 2 wounds on Jessica instead of 0.
R2T2: removes 1 marker to force Iron Fist to re-roll 2 shields. Turns them into 1 shield. He takes 2 wounds instead of 1.
R2T3: removes 1 marker to force Iron Fist to re-roll 2 shields. Still rolls 2 shields.

Twisted Reality:


Notes:
R1T3: Luke Cage puts 3 wounds on Sabretooth.
R1T3: Sabretooth puts 1 wound on Luke Cage with VS, then 3 wounds on Luke Cage, then heals 1 wound. Wild Child kills Luke Cage.
R1end: Sabretooth heals 1 wound.
R2T1: Sabretooth puts 2 wounds on Jessica, then heals 1 wound. Wild Child puts 2 wounds on Jessica(botch).
R2T2: Sabretooth kills Jessica.
R2T3: Sabretooth puts 1 wound on Iron Fist. Wild Child kills Iron Fist.
R3T1: Sabretooth puts 2 wounds on Swordsman. Wild Child kills Swordsman.


Scarlet(1 marker remaining), Sabretooth, Wild Child, and Blink all unwounded.

Complete shut out here. Scarlet's re-rolls definitely proved super effective, especially against someone like Luke Cage who really needs that shield.

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• Scarlet's Defense from 5 to 4.
• Hex Phenomena changed to requiring a turn with Scarlet and placing them on someone's card.

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Army Test 2 (rematch with changes)
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Scarlet Witch(255), Blink(145), Sabretooth(270), Wild Child(160) (830)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Jessica Jones(220), Swordsman(160) (830)

Spoiler Alert!

Normal Attack Damage:
R1T3: 1 wound on Iron Fist.
R2T1: 2 wounds on Iron Fist.
R2T2: 2 wounds on Iron Fist, kills him.
R2T3: 3 wounds on Jessica Jones.

Hex Phenomena 6:
R1T3: places one on Cage.
R2T1: places one on Iron Fist.
• removes it after Fist rolls 3 shields on defense, turns into 1 shield resulting in 2 wounds instead of 0.
R2T2: places one on Iron Fist.
• removes it after Fist rolls 2 shields on defense, turns into 0 shields resulting in 2 wounds instead of 0.
R2T3: places one on Jessica.
• removes it after Jessica rolls 2 shields on defense, turns into 0 shields resulting in 3 wounds instead of 1.
R3T1: removes marker from Luke Cage to force him to re-roll 4 skulls into 2 skulls, resulting in 0 wounds on Wild Child instead of 2(which would have killed him).
R3T1: places one on Jessica.
• removes it after Jessica rolls 2 shields on defense, turns into 1 shield still resulting in 0 wounds.
R3T1: places last one on Luke Cage.
• removes it after Cage rolls 1 shield on defense, turns into 0 shields resulting in 3 wounds instead of 1.

Twisted Reality:


Notes:
R1T3: Fist puts 1 wound on Sabretooth. Cage puts 1 wound on Wild Child and Sabretooth.
R1T3: Wild Child heals 1 wound.
R1end: Sabretooth heals 1 wound.
R2T1: Wild Child puts 1 wound on Iron Fist.
R2T1: Fist puts 1 wound on Sabretooth, then heals 1 wound. Cage puts 1 wound on Wild Child and Sabretooth.
R2T2: Wild Child heals 1 wound.
R2T2: Jessica puts 2 wounds on Sabretooth, then views his X. Luke Cage takes 1 wound from LEA, then attacks Sabretooth but it is blocked.
R2T3: Wild Child puts 1 wound on Jessica Jones.
R2T3: Jessica fails to wound Sabretooth. Cage kills Sabretooth.
R3T1: Jessica puts 2 wounds on Wild Child, then views his X. Cage fails to wound Wild Child.
R3T1: Wild Child kills Jessica Jones, then heals 1 wound.
R3T2: Luke Cage puts 2 wounds on Wild Child.
R3T2: Wild Child heals 1 wound.
R3T3: Swordsman kills Wild Child.
R4T1: Swordsman kills Scarlet Witch with Swordplay attacks. Luke Cage puts 1 wound on Blink.
R4T2: Swordsman kills Blink.


Luke Cage with 4/5 wounds, and Swordsman unwounded.

Nice matchup here. It felt like the Rebels had it, as they maintained a pretty good momentum for the first half, but once Scarlet's markers ran out, and Sabretooth fell, the momentum shifted and the Fighters came back to win it.

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Army Test 3
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Scarlet Witch(255), Blink(145), Rogue(300), Wild Child(160) (860)
vs.
Professor X(220), Angel(90), Psylocke(250), Gorgon(300) (860)

Spoiler Alert!

Normal Attack Damage:
R1T3: 2 wounds on Psylocke(botch).
R2T1: 1 wound on Professor X. (height)
R3T3: 1 wound on Angel(botch).

Hex Phenomena 6:
R1T2: places one on Psylocke.
R1T3: places one on Gorgon.
R1T3: removes marker from Psylocke, forcing her to re-roll 2 shields into 0 shields, resulting in 4 wounds(1 excess) instead of 2, killing her.
R1T3: removes marker from Gorgon, forcing him to re-roll 3 skulls into 1 skull, resulting in 0 wounds on Wild Child instead of 2(saving his life).
R2T1: places one on Gorgon.
R3T1: removes marker from Gorgon to force him to re-roll 3 shields into 2 shields, still blocks.
R3T3: places marker on Gorgon.
R4T2: removes marker from Gorgon, forcing him to re-roll 4 skulls into 2 skulls, resulting in 0 wounds instead of 2 on Rogue, saving her life.
R4T3: places marker on Gorgon.
R4T3: removes marker from Gorgon to force him to re-roll 5 skulls into 2, resulting in 0 wounds on Blink instead of 2.
R5T2: places last marker on Gorgon.

Twisted Reality:
R6T1: fails 1/1 unblockable on Gorgon.

Notes:
R1T1: Psylocke puts 2 wounds on Rogue(botch).
R1T2: Gorgon puts 1 wound on Wild Child. Psylocke puts 1 wound on Wild Child.
R1T3: Wild Child kills Psylocke, then heals 1 wound.
R1T3: Angel puts 1 wound on Wild Child.
R1end: Wild Child removes one wound.
R2T1: Wild Child takes 1 wound from Gorgon's PS.
R2T1: Gorgon kills Wild Child with his SA.
R2T2: Gorgon puts 1 wound on Scarlet.
R3T1: Gorgon takes 1 wound from LEA, puts 1 wound on Rogue with his SA.
R4T1: Rogue puts 1 wound on Gorgon and drains him.
R4T2: Rogue puts 3 wounds on Gorgon with Gorgon's SA.
R5T1: Gorgon kills Rogue with his SA.
R5T2: Gorgon puts 1 wound on Scarlet.
R5T3: Gorgon puts 1 wound on Scarlet.
R6T1: Angel kills Scarlet.
R6T1: Blink takes herself and Gorgon out of Professor X's range.
R6T3: Gorgon puts 3 wounds on Blink.
R7T1: Blink is killed by Gorgon's PS.


Gorgon with 5/6 wounds, Professor X with 1/4 wounds, and Angel with 1/4 wounds.

Another match that felt a nice back and forth of momentum. Scarlet still proved quite useful here, but ultimately they just failed to finish Gorgon which was the deciding factor. Felt like anyone's game.

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Army Test 4
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Scarlet Witch(255), Vision(285), Cap(240), Hawkeye III(220) (1000)
vs.
Fantastic Four (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

Normal Attack Damage:
R2T2: 3 wounds on Mr. Fantastic. (Cap +1)

Hex Phenomena 6:
R1T2: places marker on Mr. Fantastic.
R2T1: removes marker from her own card to re-roll 4 defense, turns into 1 shield. Still takes 1 wound.
R2T2: removes marker from Mr. Fantastic's card to force him to re-roll 2 skulls, turns into 1 skull. Scarlet just blocks the attack with 1 shield.
R2T2: places a marker on Mr. Fantastic's card.
R2T2: removes marker from her own card to re-roll 3 of her attack dice into 1 skull, for a total of 3.
• removes marker from Mr. Fantastic's card to force him to re-roll 2 shields into 0 shields. Resulting in 3 wounds instead of 1.
R2T3: removes marker from her own card to re-roll 4 defense dice, resulting in 1 shield for a total of 2 shields. Blocks Mr. Fantastic's 2 skulls, keeping herself alive.
R3T2: places last marker on Mr. Fantastic.

Twisted Reality:


Notes:
R1T1: Mr. Fantastic rolls an 11.
R1T2: Mr. Fantastic rolls a 17. Human Torch puts 2 wounds on Cap(botch).
R1T3: Mr. Fantastic rolls an 18.
R1T3: Vision puts 3 wounds on Human Torch with Physical Disruption (17).
R2T1: Mr. F rolls a 16. Human Torch risks 4 LEAs, takes 1 wound, then puts 2 wounds on Cap, Scarlet, Vision, and Hawkeye with Fo4. Then uses Supernova on all 4 + Mr. Fantastic. Blocked by all. Thing kills Vision with a full Clobberin' Time. Mr. Fantastic puts 1 wound on Scarlet.
R2T1: Cap kills Human Torch(botch).
R2T2: Mr. Fantastic rolls a 3.
R2T3: Mr. Fantastic rolls a 2.
R3T1: Cap puts 2 wounds on Invisible Woman.
R3T1: Mr. Fantastic rolls a 1. Attacks Scarlet but is blocked.
R3T2: Hawkeye moves and attacks instead of Scarlet, using his SA on Invisible Woman negating her defense boost, puts 3 wounds on her, kills her.
R3T2: Thing takes 1 wound from LEA, then puts 1 wound on Hawkeye.
R3T3: Hawkeye kills Mr. Fantastic.
R3T3: Thing kills Cap.
R4T1: Hawkeye puts 4 wounds on Thing(botch) with his SA.
R4T1: Thing kills Hawkeye.
R4T2: Scarlet fails to hurt Thing.
R4T2: Thing kills Scarlet(botch).


Thing with 5/6 wounds(1 life remaining).

Super close match here. Closer than I thought it'd be given Human Torch's nasty Fo4 early on that put 2 wounds on every enemy, and setup Thing for an immediate full Clobberin' Time on Vision, taking him out. Fantastic had some great luck for the first half, but his rolls hit the other extreme and started coming in low. The Avengers managed to fight back a bit, finishing Torch then Invisible Woman and Fantastic. But Thing made quick work of the remaining Avengers, barely clinging to life himself, for an anyone's game finish.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
After the changes, Scarlet feels much more balanced, and much more involved. She went from not really needing to take turns while being able to cripple some defense rolls, to needing those turns to dish out the Hexes for immediate or future use. Which then presents some tactical decision making on who you give the Hex marker to, ally or foe, and what you feel is going to best benefit you. Her already having the markers on her card for her own use is also nice, as it keeps her remaining markers always usable on herself in a pinch. Even with the 3 losses here, no game felt unwinnable for either side.

[Arkham]

Ok, so she's coming in quite hot so far. Had to stop the 2nd game because it was looking to be another steamroll as the first one was.

So, something needs to change here. What would people prefer? We can:
• Raise her points by 100 to 355, letting her be scary Scarlet.
• Reduce her Hex markers from 6 to 3 (can modify the Twisted Reality to be 2 per marker to make that still worth having).
• Limit her Hex markers to attack dice and d20 rolls (forced defense re-rolls seem to be the best atm).
• Change how the Hex markers are used. One possibility:

HEX PHENOMENA 6
Start the game with 6 red Hex Markers on this card. After moving and before attacking, you may choose a figure within 6 clear sight spaces of Scarlet Witch. Place a red Hex Marker from this card onto the chosen figure's card. After any attack dice, defense dice, or the 20-sided die is rolled for a figure with a red Hex Marker on its card, you may immediately remove a red Hex Marker from its card to re-roll any dice.

TWISTED REALITY
When Scarlet Witch is destroyed by an opponent's figure, roll one unblockable attack die against each enemy figure for each red Hex Marker on its card.

[tcglkn]

I’m fine with her being powerful and expensive

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by tcglkn

I’m fine with her being powerful and expensive

Seems reasonable for a second incarnation.

[Lazy Orang]

I'm good with that. Only know her from the Avengers films, really, but there she was arguably one of the strongest Avengers, with her and Vision probably being the next step below Hulk/Thor level.

[japes]

I'm torn a bit. I don't mind a big scary Wanda but as she was basically the first big death in AoA it feels weird that she's the scariest rebel.

[IAmBatman]

Ah, yeah, if that's not right for AoA Scarlet Witch, you can go in the other direction just as well.

[Arkham]

She’s killed by Nemesis, who will likely be in the 400’s point wise. So I don’t think that’s much of a concern, IMO.

We could always split the difference and go 315, and then do a couple of smaller tweaks.

[Karat]

Yea, I'd probably go 315 with your power change ideas. Seems like a fun and interesting way to portray that.