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Old November 12th, 2019, 03:06 PM
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Breathing Period)

I just ran the numbers.

@4 or fewer attack dice we have 581/916 figures (includes On-Deck & Hasbro) or 63% of figures.
Without Superstrength that changes to 448/916 or 49%.

@3 Attack we have 262/916 or 29%.
Without Superstrength that changes to 232/916 or 25%.

@4 or fewer Defense we have 435/916 or 47%.
Without SS that changes to 352/916 or 38%.

@3 or fewer Defense we have 166/916 or 18%.
Without SS that changes to 145/916 or 16%.

{Edit} Google Sheets was being funny and after looking at YK's I thought I better check my numbers. Updated.

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Old November 12th, 2019, 03:23 PM
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Breathing Period)

Put me in the 4 or fewer without SS. 33% is quite a nice number. The no SS helps a lot with most issues thematically. Like GL.

So that’s A+E.

Second choice would be B with the 3 or less attack.

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Old November 12th, 2019, 03:27 PM
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Breathing Period)

Looking at the numbers, I'm solidly in the Defense category. Either one has less impact than the attack approach and seems more thematically solid to boot. I'm an C, C+E, D, or D+E.
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Breathing Period)

Thanks for running the numbers on the up-to-date lists Karat!


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Looking at the numbers, I'm solidly in the Defense category. Either one has less impact than the attack approach and seems more thematically solid to boot. I'm an C, C+E, D, or D+E.
Your numbers don't support that statement at all though. Here is how your numbers break down for highest % impacted, to lowest % impacted:

63%, 4 att
49%, 4 att w/o SS
47%, 4 def
38%, 4 def w/o SS
29%, 3 att
25%, 3 att w/o SS
18%, 3 def
16%, 3 def w/o SS

I'd only be comfortable with one of the bottom 4 options from a theme perspective and game play impact, 3 att with or w/o SS being my first choice(s).
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Breathing Period)

My general design philosophy is to try and make each power usable at least once per game. (With some exceptions, of course.) To that end, I'm personally leaning towards these options;
3 att (29%)
3 att w/o SS (25%)
3 def (18%)

Those seem like good numbers where the ability is likely to come up a few times per game, but will still be niche. I don't want him being too niche though, seeing as he already has 1 power that will drive him towards fighting weaker common figures. (Human Shield)

I think there's going to be a few weird thematic corner cases no matter what, so those aren't factoring too much into my decision making process.
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Thanks for running the numbers on the up-to-date lists Karat!


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Looking at the numbers, I'm solidly in the Defense category. Either one has less impact than the attack approach and seems more thematically solid to boot. I'm an C, C+E, D, or D+E.
Your numbers don't support that statement at all though. Here is how your numbers break down for highest % impacted, to lowest % impacted:

63%, 4 att
49%, 4 att w/o SS
47%, 4 def
38%, 4 def w/o SS
29%, 3 att
25%, 3 att w/o SS
18%, 3 def
16%, 3 def w/o SS

I'd only be comfortable with one of the bottom 4 options from a theme perspective and game play impact, 3 att with or w/o SS being my first choice(s).
I did mean at the same level, I just didn't spell it out.
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Breathing Period)

Defense seems weirder to me since so many figures have defensive powers and low defense. Less so with Attack. My concern that I mentioned earlier would be addressed with the SS clause put in.

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Old November 13th, 2019, 07:54 PM
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Defense seems weirder to me since so many figures have defensive powers and low defense. Less so with Attack. My concern that I mentioned earlier would be addressed with the SS clause put in.
In total agreement.

I like Attack Number of 4 or less with no SS.

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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Breathing Period)

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NAME = CROSSBONES
SECRET IDENTITY = BROCK RUMLOW

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TERRORIST
PERSONALITY = SADISTIC
SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4
MOVE = 5
RANGE = 7
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = ???


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After attacking a non-adjacent figure with crossbones's normal attack, if you did not reveal an order marker on crossbones this turn, he may attack one additional time.

BRUTALITY
When attacking an adjacent figure with Crossbones, if his Attack Number is higher than that of the defending figure, the defending figure subtracts 1 from its Defense.

HUMAN SHIELD 17
When Crossbones is targeted for a normal attack from a non-adjacent figure, you may choose an adjacent small or medium figure without the Super Strength special power and roll the 20-sided die. Add 3 to your roll if you control that figure, and add 3 your roll if that figure is Common. If you roll 17 or higher, if Crossbones would receive one or more wounds from that attack, ignore one of those wounds and inflict a wound on the figure chosen for Human Shield.
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Breathing Period)

Looks like about 251 figures he'd affect all the time and 12 he'd affect when their battery charges get low enough.

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