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Old September 24th, 2019, 10:26 AM
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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Crypolith) - Design

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I am fine with Pillars of Har and the way it falls on the ears, but effectively naming them "Pillars of Height" feels a little too on-the-nose.
As opposed to Jotun translating to Giant? It feels a bit like traditional scape in that sense.

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Old November 7th, 2019, 12:29 AM
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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Crypolith) - Design

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Any issues with going forward as Pillar of Hár for the name of these?

Also, any issue with 3 Life and 4 Defense?

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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Crypolith) - Design

Both of those details are fine with me. I could see a more skewed number working like 2 life 5 defense, as these look more like they would snap to a few strong hits rather than be whittled away by numerous weaker ones. But 3 is already fairly brittle.
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Old November 7th, 2019, 03:53 AM
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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Crypolith) - Design

Yep. Works for me. I get the feeling the main thing will be scenario design.
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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Crypolith) - Design

Then I believe we are ready for editing. I’ll wait a few days for anyone else to chime in on the name and stats before calling the vote to move to editing.

Edit: OP updated. I left the Basic Side Defense as 4, but we may decide its not attackable anyway. The Basic game doesn’t matter.*

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Re: [Pod 0] Pillar of Hár (Crypolith) - Design

I don't anticipate having a basic side for the card here. The Fortress Door card just had the HeroScape logo on the back like the Glyph cards, correct? I wouldn't mind matching that precedent.

The name and stats seem good to me. I'm a little less concerned about getting this unit out of the door right now because it largely depends on scenarios and how the other characters will play, but it doesn't hurt to move it forward if we're mostly settled at this point.
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Re: [Pod 0] Pillar of Hár (Crypolith) - Design

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I don't anticipate having a basic side for the card here. The Fortress Door card just had the HeroScape logo on the back like the Glyph cards, correct? I wouldn't mind matching that precedent.

The name and stats seem good to me. I'm a little less concerned about getting this unit out of the door right now because it largely depends on scenarios and how the other characters will play, but it doesn't hurt to move it forward if we're mostly settled at this point.
Well, we will need to do “some” testing for the Pillar for sure. By some I mean a bunch of RaeRae tests.

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Re: [Pod 0] Pillar of Hár (Crypolith) - Design

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UNSTABLE
When this crypolith receives a wound or is destroyed, a figure on top of it must be placed by its controller on a space adjacent to the cryptolith or the space it the cryptolith previously occupied. Roll an attack die. On a skull, that figure receives a wound. If that figure cannot be placed, it is destroyed.

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Re: [Pod 0] Pillar of Hár (Crypolith) - Design

I guess we do editing with this one same as figures, yeah?
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Re: [Pod 0] Pillar of Hár (Crypolith) - Design

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Well, we will need to do “some” testing for the Pillar for sure. By some I mean a bunch of RaeRae tests.
I suppose that we should throw in Protectors of Ullar as well. A ranged flying squad should be appreciative of these.

A big part of the "competitive" balance of this Destructible Object will come from mapmakers, though. I'm okay with these things being a bit of a silly fun kind of addition to the game, like the castles.

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When this Pillar of Hár receives a wound or is destroyed, a figure on top of it must be placed by its controller either on a space adjacent to that Pillar of Hár or the space it the Pillar of Hár previously occupied. Roll an attack die. If a skull is rolled, that figure receives a wound. If that figure cannot be placed, it is destroyed.
I made some minor updates, but it otherwise looks good to me.

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I guess we do editing with this one same as figures, yeah?
I see no reason why not.
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Re: [Pod 0] Pillar of Hár (Crypolith) - Design

Looks good, Astro.

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Re: [Pod 0] Pillar of Hár (Crypolith) - Design

Does "If that figure cannot be placed, it is destroyed" cover if you have two pillars next to each other with a double space figure on both of them, and one pillar is destroyed? Also hypothetically you could mix with fortress set (or Marvel set or just tons of terrain) so that the top of the pillar is the same height as other terrain so a double-space figure can be 1/2 on the pillar and 1/2 on other terrain. We could make it in rules where they pillars could never be placed next to each other or other same height terrain, but I don't like that restriction, so we need a contingency for double-spaced figures 1/2 on a pillar that gets destroyed.

Also as UNSTABLE is worded figures with >=10 height will still need to roll from damage. I think (double-check me) the only figures with >=10 height are double-spaced. So only scenario is with explosion attack that destroys both pillars if a double-spaced figure falls he/she/it will still possibly take damage.
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