The Book of Poison

[Arkham]

Originally Posted by tcglkn

Also need @Arkham to make sure SW has access to the symbol for when the card gets made here.

The symbol is on the server in the art dept folder.

[tcglkn]

Sweet, thanks Ark.

[Arkham]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT P◙is◙n

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Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Poison(300), Valkyrie(350), Ms. Marvel(350) (950)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Wolverine(280), Jessica Jones(220) (950)

Spoiler Alert!

Normal Attack Damage:
R3T1: failed to wound Wolverine.

SPIDER STINGERS 9:
R2T1: rolls an 18 and a 9, 2 wounds on Luke Cage.
R2T2: rolls a 2 and a 15, 1 wound on Iron Fist, kills him.
R2T3: rolls a 1 and a 12, 1 wound on Luke Cage.
R2T3VS: rolls a 2 and a 5, fails.
R3T1VS: rolls a 2 and a 15, 1 wound on Luke Cage.
• rolls a 7 and a 16, 1 wound on Luke Cage, kills him.
R3T2VS: rolls a 9 and a 7, 1 wound on Wolverine.

VENGEFUL STING:
R2T3: Takes 1 wound from Wolverine(instead of 2), then rolls for SS9.
R3T1: Takes 1 wound from Wolverine(instead of 2), then rolls for SS9.
• Takes 3 wounds from Luke Cage(instead of 4), then rolls for SS9.
R3T2: Takes 2 wounds from Wolverine(instead of 3), then rolls for SS9.

Notes:
R1T3: Marvel(+1) puts 1 wound on Iron Fist(+1).
R1T3: Cage(+1) puts 4 wounds on Valkyrie.
R2T1: Marvel(+1) puts 3 wounds on Fist(+1).
R2T1: Jessica puts 1 wound on Valkyrie, views opponent's OM3. Cage kills Valkyrie.
R2T2: Jessica puts 2 wounds on Ms. Marvel, takes 1 wound from her BD, then views opponent's OM3. Cage puts 1 wound on Ms. Marvel.
R2T3: Marvel kills Jessica.
R2T3: Cage kills Ms. Marvel.
R3T2: Wolverine kills Poison(botch).


Wolverine unwounded(healed 1 wound).

Valkyrie got targeted out of the gate to try and get her protection out of the way. Poison's team used this time to try and do as much damage with Poison's Stingers and Marvel's attack per OM. Poison and Marvel took out Fist and Jessica, but Valkyrie fell and thus Marvel started getting hit hard. Came down to Poison vs. Wolverine, with Wolverine having the advantage over an already heavily wounded Poison.

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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Poison(300), Green Arrow(210), Superman(440), Batman III(250) (1200)
vs.
Star-Lord(250), Nebula(240), Gamora(300), Nightcrawler(210), Bug(200) (1200)

Spoiler Alert!

Normal Attack Damage:


SPIDER STINGERS 9:
R1T3: rolls a 5 and a 4, fails.
R2T1VS: rolls a 7(+2 from Batman) and a 14, 2 wounds on Star-Lord.
R2T2VS: rolls a 9 and a 12, 2 wounds on Bug.
• rolls a 2 and a 7(+2 from Batman), 1 wound on Bug.
R2T2: rolls a 3 and an 8(+2 from Batman), 1 wound on Nightcrawler.
R2T3: rolls a 14 and a 17, 2 wounds on Nightcrawler.
R3T1: rolls a 19 and a 4, 1 wound on Nightcrawler, kills him.
R3T2: rolls a 7 and an 8, fails.
R3T3VS: rolls a 13 and an 8, 1 wound on Gamora.
R4T1VS: rolls a 5 and a 14, 1 wound on Nebula.
R4T1: rolls a 5 and an 18, 1 wound on Nebula.

VENGEFUL STING:
R2T1: takes 2 wounds from Gamora(+2)(instead of 3), then rolls for SS9.
R2T2: takes 1 wound from Bug(instead of 2), then rolls for SS9.
• takes 1 wound from Bug(instead of 2), then rolls for SS9.
R3T3: takes 2 wounds from Nebula(+1)(instead of 3), then rolls for SS9.
R4T1: Defends for Superman, takes 0 wounds from Nebula(instead of 1), rolls for SS9.

Notes:
R1T3: Gamora(+2, +1 auto) puts 1 wound on Green Arrow.
R2T1: Superman puts 3 wounds on Gamora(+1, botch). Green Arrow(+1) removes 2nd marker, kills Star-Lord(+1).
R3T1: Gamora puts 1 wound on Superman.
R3T2: Gamora puts 2 wounds on Superman.
R3T3: Green Arrow kills Gamora.
R4T2: Nebula puts 2 wounds on Poison with VS, kills him. Then attacks Green Arrow(+1) for 2 wounds.
R4T2: Superman puts 2 wounds on Gamora.
R4T3: Superman removes 2nd marker to defend for Green Arrow.
R4T3: Green Arrow puts 1 wound on Gamora(botch).
R4end: Gamora heals 1 wound.
R5T1: Superman kills Nebula.
R5T1: Superman removes last marker to defend for Batman, takes 1 wound from Bug. Bug(+1) puts 1 wound on Superman in 2nd attack.
R5T2: Superman smashes Bug.


Superman 6/7 wounds(no markers), Green Arrow with 3/4 wounds(no markers), and Batman unwounded.

Still a pretty close game, but it was a nice win for Poison's team this time around. Batman helped raise Poison's rolls 3 times, and Superman was able to help defend or throw Poison in to force the enemy to trigger his VS. Green Arrow made for some nice additional attacks. The Guardians felt formidable but couldn't quite keep up against the auto-wounding of Poison.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Very fun dynamic between high life, low defense(which I only felt compelled to roll for once), a 1 wound negation against attacks, and a nice auto-wounding power that can be used if you forgo the defense. Felt like a more hands on aggressor Jason which was cool. He doesn't have any built in synergy as of yet, but he fits in with some fun general armies such as the Avengers or Justice League. 300 felt about right to me with a close loss and a close win.

One thing I was unsure of, was when using SS9, if you could choose a different target for the 2nd roll. As is written, it just says you can roll again, so I don't believe that would allow re-choosing a figure, and that's how I played it(though it never really came up to where it would have mattered). Just figured I'd ask for clarity just to be sure.

[Lord Pyre]

Stingers is reused off of Kaine. That said, I couldn't tell you anymore what the intent was there. It wouldn't be broken to choose different targets I'm sure. Might want to update that on both cards.

[Ronin]

Thanks for the test, Ark!

Pretty sure it's intended that you can't choose a new target for the second Spider Stingers roll. That's how I've always played it.

[Ronin]

Double checked myself in Kaine's thread, and 2013 LP definitely wanted it to hit the same figure twice and not to change up the targets. Not for balance reasons, just for character reasons.

The current wording does work as intended, but obviously we could tweak for clarity - it's a pretty common question about the power.

[tcglkn]

I think the wording is clear if that is the intent, an FAQ wouldn't hurt though.

[Tornado]

Poison by Alice Cooper as sung by Aunt May.

Spoiler Alert!

Your cruel device
Your blood, like ice
One look, could kill
My pain, your thrill
I wanna love you but I better not touch (don't touch)
I wanna hold you, but my senses tell me to stop
I want you back but I want it too much (too much)
I wanna hug you but your stingers are venomous poison
You're poison, running through my veins
You're poison
I don't want to break these chains
Your breath, not hot
Your web, I'm caught
Your skin, so wet
Symbiote, on sweat
I hear you calling and it's needles and pins (and pins)
You wanna hurt me just to hear me screaming your name
Don't want to touch you but you're under my skin (deep in)
I wanna hug you but your stingers are venomous poison
Poison
One look, could kill
My pain, your thrill
Poison (poison)
Runnin' deep inside my veins
Burnin' deep inside my brain (poison)
Poisoning (poison)
Poison

[tcglkn]

Anything you're looking to see in testing? He doesn't seem to really have any synergies to speak of.

[Ronin]

Yeah, he doesn't have any big paper synergies. There's theoretically Crime-Master, but Poison barely cares about his normal attack, so it's not a stellar pairing.

Ark and I both dug him in generalist stuff. Maybe @LordVenoc or @Soundwarp SG-1 have some ideas for stuff we haven't tried yet?

[tcglkn]

Was thinking a Cap/Star-Lord build with Spidey but he doesn't seem to care much about stat boosters since you don't wanna roll defense.

[Ronin]

Yeah, he just wants to sting all day, really. d20 boosters would be bigger for him than stat-boosters. Maybe a game with Joker (IV) or John Constantine?