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Old June 10th, 2022, 12:07 PM
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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future)

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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future)

Well you edited it after I posted that, but my suggested wording that Sporx mentioned doesn't affect how it was tested at all.
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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future)

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SHINING SWORD ATTACK
When Trunks attacks he may either attack:
with his normal attack and if at least one skull is rolled, he may attack again; or,
with his Burning Attack Special Attack.
When attacking with Trunks' normal attack, roll 1 fewer combat die for each attack after the first.
Basically I moved the rolling a skull bit to the end of the first bullet as a clarifier for attacking again.
Why would you need to specify that when he attacks he may attack with his special attack? Isn't that just how special attacks work?

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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future)

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SHINING SWORD ATTACK
When Trunks attacks he may either attack:
with his normal attack and if at least one skull is rolled, he may attack again; or,
with his Burning Attack Special Attack.
When attacking with Trunks' normal attack, roll 1 fewer combat die for each attack after the first.
Basically I moved the rolling a skull bit to the end of the first bullet as a clarifier for attacking again.
Why would you need to specify that when he attacks he may attack with his special attack? Isn't that just how special attacks work?
Not for extra attacks I do not believe.
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When Trunks attacks he may attack with his Burning Attack Special Attack.
This is all the second bullet of your power says.
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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future)

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SHINING SWORD ATTACK
After Trunks attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, if at least one skull was rolled, he may either attack:
with his normal attack against an adjacent figure, rolling 1 fewer attack die; or,
with his Burning Attack Special Attack.
I do not see any issue with this wording. Please explain why it does not work.
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Old June 10th, 2022, 01:32 PM
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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future)

I *think* understand the intent now. If so, I'd prefer a slight tweak to that, like so:

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After Trunks attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, if at least one skull was rolled, he may attack again, either:
with his normal attack against an adjacent figure, rolling 1 fewer attack die; or,
with his Burning Attack Special Attack.

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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future)

The power is already telling you that if you meet the conditions you can attack so I think the "again" part is redundant. It's saying if you do X, you can then do Y. Since my wording already says after you attack, its clear that any attack you are getting is another attack. I just think my wording is the clearest and most straightforward.
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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future)

I think it flows better with the "again" in there and matches the precedent of things like Fists of Fury that you could argue don't need the "again" but to me read much less awkwardly with it.

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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future)

Yours is longer and reads more awkwardly, two things we try to avoid when wording powers. It is better than the wording Karat proposed so I would be OK with it. Maybe @Sporx can weigh in again.
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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future)

Honestly I think part of the awkwardness is the bullets, which I don't think are necessary here with two options. I'd probably do this:

After Trunks attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, if at least one skull was rolled, he may attack again with either his Burning Attack Special Attack or against an adjacent figure with his normal attack, rolling 1 fewer attack die.

or

After Trunks attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, if at least one skull was rolled, he may attack an adjacent figure again with his normal attack, rolling 1 fewer attack die, or he may attack with his Burning Attack Special Attack.

I think I prefer the second.

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Re: The Book of Trunks (Future)

I am looking at Syvarris’s “Double Attack” and Wildcat’s “The Ol’ One-Two.” They both use “one additional time…” So, here are two options, one with bullets, one without:

SHINING SWORD ATTACK

After Trunks attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, if at least one skull was rolled, he may attack one additional time, either with his normal attack against an adjacent figure, rolling 1 fewer attack die, or with his Burning Attack Special Attack.

OR

SHINING SWORD ATTACK
After Trunks attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, if at least one skull was rolled, he may attack one additional time, either:
• with his normal attack against an adjacent figure, rolling 1 fewer attack die; or
• with his Burning Attack Special Attack.

If it is without bullets, then I think the Burning Attack should be listed second, so that people don’t read the “1 fewer attack die” to apply to both options. Also, in the bullet points version, there shouldn’t be a comma after “or.” Some of the earlier drafts have that extra comma.

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