The Book of Marcu Esenwein

[tannergx]

I have a question about Life Drain that I did not see in this thread. In a game last night, my opponent attempted a Pounce attack with a Badru Wolf on Marcu and failed to kill him. As a result, the wolf was destroyed.

Should Marcu get to remove a wound marker? In the game we didn't, but the more I read Life Drain, the more I'm wondering. It was Marcu's shields that resulted in the wolf being destroyed.

Has it ever come up?

~tgx

Edit: See Rÿchean's follow-up. Wow... embarassing. Don't know why I didn't check the FAQs first. Sorry for the spam.

[Rÿchean]

Originally Posted by tannergx

I have a question about Life Drain that I did not see in this thread. In a game last night, my opponent attempted a Pounce attack with a Badru Wolf on Marcu and failed to kill him. As a result, the wolf was destroyed.

Should Marcu get to remove a wound marker? In the game we didn't, but the more I read Life Drain, the more I'm wondering. It was Marcu's shields that resulted in the wolf being destroyed.

Has it ever come up?

~tgx

Yep..it has come up...

From the FAQ:

If one of the Wolves of Badru attempts to Pounce and fails to destroy the defending figure, the attacking Wolf is destroyed. For figures like Cyprian Esenwein, Zombies of Morindan, and Tagawa Samurai, does the defending figure get “credit” for destroying the figure? They each have powers that trigger when destroying an opponent’s figure.
No. The defending figure does not get credit for the kill when a Wolf of Badru fails in its Pounce Special Attack.

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[Confred]

But if somehow a character had Life Drain and Counter Strike?

[YoYoCheese]

Originally Posted by Confred

But if somehow a character had Life Drain and Counter Strike?

Ogre Pulvirizer attacks Marcu, Marcu rolls one shield (or more if something's increasing his defence), and the Ogre somehow rolls zero skulls.

[CheddarLimbo]

Originally Posted by YoYoCheese

Ogre Pulvirizer attacks Marcu, Marcu rolls one shield (or more if something's increasing his defence), and the Ogre somehow rolls zero skulls.

Marcu is dealing the damage, by way of a rule change that allows him to do it with shields instead of skulls. I think Marcu would get to get the Life Drain.

[dok]

I believe the precedent for this has already been set - Tagawa Samurai get experience for counterstrike kills.

While we're on the subject, I believe leaving engagement attacks also count.

WoB pounce is a special case where the target does not get credit for the kill.

[greenlee_smythe]

Originally Posted by Troy Spiral

The Plot thickens... i asked for more clarification and was told this (in refrence to the DW7k ruling)

This is not correct...because after taking a turn with Marcu, ownership returns to the original owner...so if he is my only figure and i roll a 17 and u take a turn with him, once u are done, i get control of him back. it says so on the first page of this forum.

[Rÿchean]

You are correct.

The post you quoted from Troy Spiral is over 7 years old and was not accurate when it was originally posted, as the subsequent 2.5 pages of discussion point out.

[Serenity]

Marcu Esenwein
C3V and SoV Custom Synergies

Spoiler Alert!

Synergy Benefits Offered

Synergy Benefits Received

ZOMBIE HULK : PARALYZING FEAR
As an Undead figure, Marcu Esenwein may be aided by Zombie Hulk's PARALYZING FEAR special ability.

CRYPT GUARDIAN : CURSE OF THE MUMMY
As an Undead figure, Marcu Esenwein may benefit from the Crypt Guardian's CURSE OF THE MUMMY ability.

MYRDDIN : MYSTIC SACRIFICE
As a Medium Unique Hero, Marcu Esenwein may benefit from Myrddin's 20-sided die enhancement.

Synergy Imposed

VAN NESSING : DIVINE MISSION
As an Undead figure, Marcu Esenwein provides Van Nessing an attack bonus when using DIVINE MISSION.

VAN NESSING : HOLY RELIC
As an Undead figure, Marcu Esenwein's ETERNAL HATRED roll is affected by Van Nessing's HOLY RELIC ability.

[IshMEL]

Originally Posted by Serenity

Marcu Esenwein
C3V and SoV Custom Synergies

Spoiler Alert!

Synergy Benefits Offered

Synergy Benefits Received

ZOMBIE HULK : PARALYZING FEAR
As an Undead figure, Marcu Esenwein may be aided by Zombie Hulk's PARALYZING FEAR special ability.

CRYPT GUARDIAN : CURSE OF THE MUMMY
As an Undead figure, Marcu Esenwein may benefit from the Crypt Guardian's CURSE OF THE MUMMY ability.

MYRDDIN : MYSTIC SACRIFICE
As a Medium Unique Hero, Marcu Esenwein may benefit from Myrddin's 20-sided die enhancement.

Synergy Imposed

VAN NESSING : DIVINE MISSION
As an Undead figure, Marcu Esenwein provides Van Nessing an attack bonus when using DIVINE MISSION.

VAN NESSING : HOLY RELIC
As an Undead figure, Marcu Esenwein's ETERNAL HATRED roll is affected by Van Nessing's HOLY RELIC ability.

Not sure if Myrddin should be listed here. Since Marcu is the only figure where adding to a d20 roll is undesirable, it's not really a useful synergy. Similarly, Marcu actually benefits from an opponent's Van Nessing.

[Serenity]

Desirable and undesirable are in the eye of the beholder. If I really want Marcu to move closer to the action (perhaps so I can use a future order marker to reach a particular space) then I might actually wish for my opponent to take over Marcu and hopefully move him to a place that will be advantageous for me in the future. Perhaps the Myrddin language should state that Marcu is affected rather than benefits however.

[yamissflash]

Originally Posted by Serenity

Desirable and undesirable are in the eye of the beholder. If I really want Marcu to move closer to the action (perhaps so I can use a future order marker to reach a particular space) then I might actually wish for my opponent to take over Marcu and hopefully move him to a place that will be advantageous for me in the future. Perhaps the Myrddin language should state that Marcu is affected rather than benefits however.

I would say adding to your roll would not be an advantage. Sure, your opponent might move him to a more developed spot, but it isn't so much a benefit to you as a benefit to your opponent that he might mess up.

This is starting to sound like my guaranteed to have a chance post...