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Old July 2nd, 2015, 12:31 PM
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Desgin Phase)

Ronnie needs a personality before we can move forward.

Also, I'd much prefer it if the glyph part was limited to Equipment Glyphs but could hit ones on the board; mechanically, being able to zap glyphs being carried is more concerning then zapping ones on the board, and thematically it's just weird that he can only destroy a glyph while it's being carried.

Also, some rewording:

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FIRESTORM MATRIX 4
Instead of taking a turn with Firestorm, you may roll 4 combat dice. After rolling, and choose one of the following:
- For each shield rolled, remove 1 Wound Marker from this card.
- For each shield rolled, choose a figure or a Destructible Object within 4 clear sight spaces of Firestorm and place 1 Wound Marker on that figure's card.
- If two or more shields were rolled, choose an equipment glyph that is within 4 clear sight spaces of Firestorm or that is equipped by a figure within 4 clear sights spaces of Firestorm. Destroy the chosen glyph.

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Old July 2nd, 2015, 12:39 PM
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Desgin Phase)

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Also, some rewording:

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FIRESTORM MATRIX 4
Instead of taking a turn with Firestorm, you may roll 4 combat dice. After rolling, and choose one of the following:
- For each shield rolled, remove 1 Wound Marker from this card.
- For each shield rolled, choose a figure or a Destructible Object within 4 clear sight spaces of Firestorm and place 1 Wound Marker on that figure's card.
- If two or more shields were rolled, choose an equipment glyph that is within 4 clear sight spaces of Firestorm or that is equipped by a figure within 4 clear sights spaces of Firestorm. Destroy the chosen glyph.
A simpler wording could be:

FIRESTORM MATRIX 4
Instead of taking a turn with Firestorm, you may roll 4 combat dice. After rolling, choose one of the following:
- For each shield rolled, remove 1 Wound Marker from this card.
- For each shield rolled, choose a figure within 4 clear sight spaces of Firestorm and place 1 Wound Marker on that figure's card.
- If two or more shields were rolled, destroy an equipment glyph within 4 clear sight spaces of Firestorm, either on a space or on a figure's card.
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 12:40 PM
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Desgin Phase)

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Ronnie needs a personality before we can move forward.

Also, I'd much prefer it if the glyph part was limited to Equipment Glyphs but could hit ones on the board; mechanically, being able to zap glyphs being carried is more concerning then zapping ones on the board, and thematically it's just weird that he can only destroy a glyph while it's being carried.

Also, some rewording:

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FIRESTORM MATRIX 4
Instead of taking a turn with Firestorm, you may roll 4 combat dice. After rolling, and choose one of the following:
- For each shield rolled, remove 1 Wound Marker from this card.
- For each shield rolled, choose a figure or a Destructible Object within 4 clear sight spaces of Firestorm and place 1 Wound Marker on that figure's card.
- If two or more shields were rolled, choose an equipment glyph that is within 4 clear sight spaces of Firestorm or that is equipped by a figure within 4 clear sights spaces of Firestorm. Destroy the chosen glyph.
Excelent, I was trying to figure out a way to word the Glyph part without it becoming too long and convoluted...Thanks. As for the Destructible Object Part what is the thinking taking that part out?

I also updated the Class/Personality to reflect concerns that were mentioned earlier. Mainly eliminating Crime Fighter and Scientist.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 01:05 PM
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As for the Destructible Object Part what is the thinking taking that part out?
The official rule (way back from classic 'scape) is that a destructible object is considered a figure for the purpose of special powers, and therefore can be affected by any power that says to choose a figure; the only time you need to reference them is when they aren't affected or when they interact differently.

With the SP updated, Yea.

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Old July 2nd, 2015, 01:08 PM
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As for the Destructible Object Part what is the thinking taking that part out?
The official rule (way back from classic 'scape) is that a destructible object is considered a figure for the purpose of special powers, and therefore can be affected by any power that says to choose a figure; the only time you need to reference them is when they aren't affected or when they interact differently.

With the SP updated, Yea.
I figured as much but thought it was worth the question...if nothing else some future browser may read that and learn something they didn't know.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 01:10 PM
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As for the Destructible Object Part what is the thinking taking that part out?
The official rule (way back from classic 'scape) is that a destructible object is considered a figure for the purpose of special powers, and therefore can be affected by any power that says to choose a figure; the only time you need to reference them is when they aren't affected or when they interact differently.

With the SP updated, Yea.
That only applies to destructible objects with a size designation.

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Old July 2nd, 2015, 01:51 PM
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As for the Destructible Object Part what is the thinking taking that part out?
The official rule (way back from classic 'scape) is that a destructible object is considered a figure for the purpose of special powers, and therefore can be affected by any power that says to choose a figure; the only time you need to reference them is when they aren't affected or when they interact differently.

With the SP updated, Yea.
That only applies to destructible objects with a size designation.
That could be an issue then since several DO's don't have size designations. So do we need to add the Destructible Object part back in?

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Vote for Initial Pla

I'd like to see Stein's Class as Scientist. It's an existing Class that interacts with certain glyphs and powers.

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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Vote for Initial Pla

Yeah, I think that the secondary class being synergistic is pretty important. It'd be nice to give it a bit of a gameplay dimension beyond pure fluff.
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Vote for Initial Pla

There seemed to be a big issue with a few people when I had Scientist in there. But If the heroes are for it I would like to change it back as well...done.

So now are we ready to vote...

I propose a vote for Initial Playtesting
@johnny139 Yea
@Karat Yea
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@TrollBrute Yea
@Viegon

Also calling out to @dok , @Dysole , @Soundwarp SG-1 , and @weebaer for any input they may have to offer.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.

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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Vote for Initial Pla

Scientist sounds like a good idea, if nothing else to make the power less useless. The initial problem was more the concern over the fact that both classes were synergistic, one should work just fine. Scientist is not that potent anyway.
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Vote for Initial Pla

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Scientist sounds like a good idea, if nothing else to make the power less useless. The initial problem was more the concern over the fact that both classes were synergistic, one should work just fine. Scientist is not that potent anyway.
Awesome...thanks for the clarification Smithy. Also I forgot about the Glyph that work with scientists.

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