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Old October 3rd, 2019, 07:47 PM
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Re: [Pod 0] Ozuul (Eldrazi Ruiner) - Editing

Yeah, we can definitely focus on the gravity theme with some simplifying it a bit.
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Re: [Pod 0] Ozuul (Eldrazi Ruiner) - Editing

I feel like we're jumping the gun on all this simplification, but I won't object to going back to design in this case.

Your custom probably has too much Defense.

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Re: [Pod 0] Ozuul (Eldrazi Ruiner) - Editing

I think it's something to keep in mind - I doubt very many of the remaining figures are going to be too simple.
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Re: [Pod 0] Ozuul (Eldrazi Ruiner) - Editing

True, but let's keep in mind that Ozuul is essentially the big bad of the set. We don't want to sacrifice him to the point that he isn't fun or interesting to play with/against. I think that our current direction is acceptable with some tweaks like this:

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After moving and before attacking, you may place each non-adjacent small or medium figure within 2 spaces of Ozuul adjacent to him. After using Gravity Pull, Ozuul must use his Gravity Crush Special Attack and may not attack normally this turn.

GRAVITY CRUSH SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 4.
All figures adjacent to Ozuul are affected by Gravity Crush Special Attack.
That maintains the core of what we were going for (pull in figures and then wipe out as many as possible) while removing some of the excess complexity such as only being able to move them one space or relying heavily on the number of adjacent figures.

That said, AYP's Weight of Eternities also looks like a fun power to me, along with being intuitive and easy to understand. I wouldn't be opposed to a redesign to incorporate that.

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Re: [Pod 0] Ozuul (Eldrazi Ruiner) - Editing

Would it be possible to give Weight to the squad?
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Re: [Pod 0] Ozuul (Eldrazi Ruiner) - Editing

I have a suspicion that Weight of Eternities would not be as mechanically clean as it read when I first wrote it out. Itís also more of a cheerleader ability than the shark or menacer that we probably want this guy to be. As for the squad, it sounds like kind of a flashy power for a unit that weíre probably hoping to come in at a lower point bracket. But itís something Iíll keep in mind going forward.

I like the simplified Pull+Crush. Iím happy to take that into some testing rather than going back to design without even giving it a try.
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Re: [Pod 0] Ozuul (Eldrazi Ruiner) - Editing

I do think we may have issues slingshotting people around but we’ll see.
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Re: [Pod 0] Ozuul (Eldrazi Ruiner) - Editing

If a chainfighter can do it, no reason this guy shouldnít be able to. Something the chainfighter canít do is lava dunk on most maps, though. With Gravity Pull being guaranteed, that could be a significant worry.

Should we make it so that the controller of each figure decides where it ends up next to Ozuul, rather than Ozuulís controller deciding for all of them? I would prefer that to a same level restriction which would severely limit the powerís ability to pull large numbers of units.
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Re: [Pod 0] Ozuul (Eldrazi Ruiner) - Editing

It makes him more like a black hole than just a gravity well, which is interesting. I like it.

Your custom probably has too much Defense.

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Re: [Pod 0] Ozuul (Eldrazi Ruiner) - Editing

Depends on what would a shorter/simpler addition to the power, only moving one space or specifying the controller moves it.
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Re: [Pod 0] Ozuul (Eldrazi Ruiner) - Editing

GRAVITY PULL
After moving and before attacking, you may place each non-adjacent Small or Medium figure within 2 clear sight spaces of Ozuul within 1 space of its current space. Figures can only be moved with Gravity Pull if they can be placed adjacent to Ozuul. Figures moved with Gravity Pull will not take leaving engagement attacks. After using Gravity Pull, Ozuul must attack with Gravity Crush Special Attack this turn.

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GRAVITY PULL
After moving and before attacking, you may use Gravity Pull. Each player must place all non-adjacent figures they control within 2 clear sight spaces of Ozuul on any space adjacent to Ozuul, if possible. Figures moved with Gravity Pull will not take leaving engagement attacks. After using Gravity Pull, Ozuul must attack with Gravity Crush Special Attack this turn.

Marginally simpler, though I'm not sure the second wording is workable. If multiple players control figures within 2 spaces of Ozuul, do we need to specify in which order those players chose to place their figures? Can we simplify it further by specifying that only opponent's figures are affected and removing the must use gravity crush requirement?

I'll also note that the "within 1 space of its current space, must be placed adjacent to Ozuul" wording in the first power is always going to be tortured no matter how we simplify the rest of it. Anyone reading that power for the first time is likely to be a little confused as to how it works.
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Re: [Pod 0] Ozuul (Eldrazi Ruiner) - Editing

Lava dunking is a great point that would likely lead to a lot of unfun interactions with Ozuul on certain maps. Lets take a stab at preventing it:

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GRAVITY PULL
After moving and before attacking, you may use Gravity Pull. Each non-adjacent small or medium figure within 2 spaces of Ozuul must be placed on an empty space adjacent to him by the player that controls that figure. After using Gravity Pull, Ozuul must use his Gravity Crush Special Attack and may not attack normally this turn.
We could probably clean this up more still, but my impression is that this is significantly more approachable than the within 1 space restriction.

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