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Old November 9th, 2015, 03:20 PM
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By my reading of the text, it appears that Jackal can yank his experiment off of Ragman or a figure that has been penance stared right?

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Re: The Book of Jackal

As written, I would say yes...not sure if we want to leave it that way or not..do you think it could be a huge competitive thing?
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As written, I would say yes...not sure if we want to leave it that way or not..do you think it could be a huge competitive thing?
No. Its impact on the meta is close to zero. Just another fun trick I can pull.

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Re: The Book of Jackal(Design Phase)

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For Cloning, you pick a Unique Hero, friend or foe. If, before OMs are placed on any given turn, the chosen Hero is dead, Cloning can occur. The Experiment can be re-Cloned after each time it dies. Correct?
As long as it was originally a Unique Human, Mutate, or Clone, correct.
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EXPERIMENTAL CLONING 15
At the start of the game, you may choose a Unique Human, Mutate, or Clone Hero on the battlefield. Before placing Order Markers each round, if the chosen Hero is destroyed, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 15 or higher, the chosen Hero becomes Jackal's Experiment. Remove all Wound Markers from the chosen Hero’s Army Card and place the chosen Hero on any empty space adjacent to Jackal. You now control the chosen Hero, and it has the species of Clone instead of what is listed on its card.
I always read it that you make your choice at the beginning and then when he's destroyed you now have your Clone. He's no longer the same hero you chose at the beginning. So is the intent that you can keep bringing him back every time he is destroyed? If so that's cool and I've been playing him wrong all this time.
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By my reading of the text, it appears that Jackal can yank his experiment off of Ragman or a figure that has been penance stared right?

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I also don't see this. You choose at the beginning of the game. Where are you getting you can change your experiment choice?

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By my reading of the text, it appears that Jackal can yank his experiment off of Ragman or a figure that has been penance stared right?

~Dysole, TOTALLY not planning anything
I also don't see this. You choose at the beginning of the game. Where are you getting you can change your experiment choice?
I choose say...Spiderman. Now Spiderman is in my army and he is killed within 6 spaces of Ragman so he goes on Ragman's card. (or he was in my opponent's army and in range of Penance Stare and he goes on the figure that killed him) Now I activate Cloning Experiment at the start of the next round and I get it. By my reading of the rules, I get to yank that figure off of Ragman (or the figure who got Penance Stared) and next to Jackal.

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By my reading of the text, it appears that Jackal can yank his experiment off of Ragman or a figure that has been penance stared right?

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I also don't see this. You choose at the beginning of the game. Where are you getting you can change your experiment choice?
I choose say...Spiderman. Now Spiderman is in my army and he is killed within 6 spaces of Ragman so he goes on Ragman's card. (or he was in my opponent's army and in range of Penance Stare and he goes on the figure that killed him) Now I activate Cloning Experiment at the start of the next round and I get it. By my reading of the rules, I get to yank that figure off of Ragman (or the figure who got Penance Stared) and next to Jackal.

~Dysole, having fun
Got it...I understand now. I was not understanding your question the first time. Thanks for clarifying.

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Re: The Book of Jackal

Yea, you choose a figure at the start of the game but can bring them back multiple times.
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Yea, you choose a figure at the start of the game but can bring them back multiple times.
Great...maybe that's why he didn't go over as well in my house...we were playing him wrong. May have to dust him off and have another go.

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Re: The Book of Jackal

Q: Can Jackal use Experimental Cloning to clone his chosen figure more than once?

A: Yes. Thematically speaking, you might think that after being cloned, the chosen figure is not the same figure anymore. But on a gameplay level, it's still the same figure, and Jackal can clone it again after it's destroyed.

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Well it's because "chosen figure" is used. I mean for example, if I choose Spider-man and the Werewolf Lord turns him into a hybrid, I STILL get to bring him back. The figure only needs to have that species at the beginning of the game.

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Re: The Book of Jackal

FWIW we've already been down this road, with Ragman, Ghost Rider, Orange Constructs, Judge Death, Thanos, Gentleman Ghost, Arnim Zola, and Solomon Grundy. These powers that give significance to a destroyed figure landing on a card and/or returning to the battlefield create unusual interactions.

The Cliff's notes version of how these interact is:
  • If two powers both want to put a destroyed figure somewhere, then the players who control them have a dice-off. The winner gets to decide which power gets to play.
  • If a power puts a "previously destroyed figure" back on the battlefield, then it may pull that figure from wherever it is. Sometimes (e.g. Ragman) this means the figure loses the benefit of having that figure on its card, while in other cases (e.g. Orange Constructs) it doesn't matter.
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