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Old March 7th, 2022, 06:04 PM
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Re: Rules Team HQ

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So that brings us to this wording:

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A figure can only use an "instead of moving normally" or "instead of attacking" power if they have a move or attack to give up.

What does this mean in practice?

- If the figure already used an "instead of moving normally" power this player turn, they do not have a move to give up. If the figure already used an "instead of attacking" power this player turn, they do not have an attack to give up.
- Instead of attacking, per a previous ruling, means instead of all attacks, so if that figure has attacked already on this figure turn, it does not have an attack to give up.
- If the figure is affected by a special power that specifically mentions that figure cannot move during this turn, it does not have a normal move to give up. If the figure is affected by a special power that specifically mentions that the figure cannot attack during this turn, it does not have an attack to give up.
- If the figure does not have a target for an attack, it can still do an instead of attacking power.
How's that look?
Maybe that?
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Old March 7th, 2022, 06:12 PM
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Hmm, but could you really use an "instead of moving" power if you already used an "instead of moving normally" power?

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Old March 7th, 2022, 06:15 PM
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They can if they have some other way of moving that turn, such as Superspeed.
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Old March 7th, 2022, 07:19 PM
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Fair point. So Amazo as written could use his Lasso instead of a move for his special attack.

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Old March 7th, 2022, 07:20 PM
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OK I think ghe version above with your tweaks works.

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Old March 8th, 2022, 12:19 PM
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Any more thoughts here before I put that wording to a vote?

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Old March 9th, 2022, 08:18 AM
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Re: Rules Team HQ

I vote that the Rules Team recommend this official ruling and FAQ to the Heroes:

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A figure can only use an "instead of moving normally" or "instead of attacking" power if they have a move or attack to give up.

What does this mean in practice?

- If the figure already used an "instead of moving normally" power this player turn, they do not have a move to give up. If the figure already used an "instead of attacking" power this player turn, they do not have an attack to give up.
- Instead of attacking, per a previous ruling, means instead of all attacks, so if that figure has attacked already on this figure turn, it does not have an attack to give up.
- If the figure is affected by a special power that specifically mentions that figure cannot move during this turn, it does not have a normal move to give up. If the figure is affected by a special power that specifically mentions that the figure cannot attack during this turn, it does not have an attack to give up.
- If the figure does not have a target for an attack, it still has an attack to give up.
Recording this as our official stance should be helpful in answering a lot of future FAQs.

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Old March 9th, 2022, 09:14 AM
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Re: Rules Team HQ - VOTE

Yea
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Re: Rules Team HQ - VOTE

I might reword "If the figure does not have a target for an attack, it can still do an instead of attacking power." as "If the figure does not have a target for an attack, it still has an attack to give up."

...to be more consistent with the wording you used above it. But otherwise it all seems good.

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Re: Rules Team HQ

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- If the figure does not have a target for an attack, it can still do an instead of attacking power.
Agreed with LP about the wording. "If the figure does not have a target for an attack, it still has an attack to give up."

You should probably also add the equivalent for move:

If the figure cannot move because it is stuck or has no open space to move to, it still has a move to give up.

It gets the point across I guess so Yea after those changes.

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Re: Rules Team HQ - VOTE

We already said a figure who can't move because they are stuck can't use an instead of moving power. They're being prevented from moving by a special power in the game.
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