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The Book of Iron Legion Drone

The Book of Iron Legion Drone

C3G MARVEL PUBLIC EXCLUSIVE COLLECTION 32
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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Avengers - Age of Ultron Movie Gravity Feed set.
Its model number and name are #002 / Iron Legion.

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Character Bio - The Iron Legion Drones were created by Tony Stark to assist the Avengers. Controlled by an A.I., six models were deployed to protect Sokovian citizens while the Avengers raided a HYDRA base. They were later destroyed after being taken over by Ultron.
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Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
  • If you have a Tony Stark in your army, Iron Legion Drone may use its Autonomous Combat Circuit special power.
Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:_________________________________________________________________

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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

NAME = IRON LEGION DRONE
SECRET IDENTITY = N/A

SPECIES = ANDROID
UNIQUENESS = UNCOMMON HERO
CLASS = CONSTRUCT
PERSONALITY = EFFICIENT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 3

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 3
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 100


AUTONOMOUS COMBAT CIRCUIT
If a figure with the identity of Tony Stark is in your army, once per player turn, after revealing an Order Marker on a Unique Hero you control and before taking a turn with that figure, you may:
• Move with this Iron Legion Drone. If you do, that figure cannot move this turn.
• Attack with this Iron Legion Drone. If you do, that figure cannot attack this turn.
Only one figure you control may use this special power per player turn, or two if the Army Card you revealed an Order Marker on has the identity of Tony Stark.

IRON GRASP
Figures engaged with this Iron Legion Drone and at least one other Unique Hero you control cannot move.


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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

Wondering if we should get the Power Armor keyword in here.

Besides that I'm pretty happy with how this design is looking. Gives Stark armies some love, and 120 gives you some solid looking builds.
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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

Happy to see these guys finally break free of the bureaucracy!

So a few stray thoughts:

-One comment that was brought up in voting was a desire to make the bonding more unique. I know LP is a bit busy with IRL stuff rn, but hopefully he can pop in with some ideas on that. But just off the top of my head, is something like this worth considering?
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AUTONOMOUS COMBAT CIRCUIT
After revealing an Order Marker on a Unique Hero you control, instead of
-Moving with that figure, you may move with this Iron Legion Drone.
-Attacking with that figure, you may attack with this Iron Legion Drone.
Only one Iron Legion Drone may use this special power per turn, or two if the figure you revealed an Order Marker on has the identity of Tony Stark.
Like that’s a rough draft, but it trades off some of the utility in a pure Iron army for being able to mix them into more generalist stuff, like Avengers. Should probably only work if you control a Tony just to keep you from tossing them into random builds.

-House Party does feel a bit superfluous when they already have a turn bonding thing. Also doesn’t feel majorly relevant to their role in the movies or comics. Don’t hate it, just wonder if it’s the best fit.

-On a similar note, so much of their role in the films/comics has to do with guarding/crowd control/etc. That’s something that Iron Man V really needs/wants, so wonder if there’s a way to give them that role?

-Repulsor Blasts feels pretty complex for what it’s doing. That’s totally just the nature of that kind of power, but I wonder if there’s a simpler way to portray the Repulsor theme?

-Slotting Power Armor in there might be a good idea.

Writing that out, it seems like a lot of criticism, but I actually like the design a lot as-is! Excited for what this adds to Iron armies.
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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

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Happy to see these guys finally break free of the bureaucracy!

So a few stray thoughts:

-One comment that was brought up in voting was a desire to make the bonding more unique. I know LP is a bit busy with IRL stuff rn, but hopefully he can pop in with some ideas on that. But just off the top of my head, is something like this worth considering?
Quote:
AUTONOMOUS COMBAT CIRCUIT
After revealing an Order Marker on a Unique Hero you control, instead of
-Moving with that figure, you may move with this Iron Legion Drone.
-Attacking with that figure, you may attack with this Iron Legion Drone.
Only one Iron Legion Drone may use this special power per turn, or two if the figure you revealed an Order Marker on has the identity of Tony Stark.
Like that’s a rough draft, but it trades off some of the utility in a pure Iron army for being able to mix them into more generalist stuff, like Avengers. Should probably only work if you control a Tony just to keep you from tossing them into random builds.

-House Party does feel a bit superfluous when they already have a turn bonding thing. Also doesn’t feel majorly relevant to their role in the movies or comics. Don’t hate it, just wonder if it’s the best fit.

-On a similar note, so much of their role in the films/comics has to do with guarding/crowd control/etc. That’s something that Iron Man V really needs/wants, so wonder if there’s a way to give them that role?

-Repulsor Blasts feels pretty complex for what it’s doing. That’s totally just the nature of that kind of power, but I wonder if there’s a simpler way to portray the Repulsor theme?

-Slotting Power Armor in there might be a good idea.

Writing that out, it seems like a lot of criticism, but I actually like the design a lot as-is! Excited for what this adds to Iron armies.
Quick reply before I go to the gym :

I was actually considering doing something that made them work in a general Avengers build! Wasn’t sure if people would be super open to it since they seem to be getting a lot of love soon.

Could see doing something like you suggested, but maybe with Avenger Marker figures instead of any Unique Hero. Down to hear what LP thinks if he finds the time.

Very open to dumping HPP for a defensive power. Maybe something like a “Power Armor : Defensive Protocol” that lets the Drone eat wounds/die for a figure. Maybe make it more effective for Tony Stark figures.

I pulled Repulsor Blasts from Iron Mans Repulsor Beam, but yeah it’s a lot of real estate. Open to tweaking and keeping the mechanic of pushing something away, doesn’t really need to be a special attack.

Definitely not too much criticism! Love these kinds of comments, helps a ton.
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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

Big fan of this design. Looking forward to seeing where it goes.
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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

This is a fun design. I like that their bonding works alongside Iron Man Mark V.

I agree that House Party Protocol seems unnecessary when you've already got the bonding in the first power.

You can reword the special attack to cut down the amount of words. The Iron Men have some extraneous wording in their powers like the falling damage line. There's also a few typos I fixed. The other powers should refer to "Iron Legion Drone" as well.
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REPULSOR BLASTS SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 5. Attack 3.
If an Iron Legion Drone inflicts one or more wounds on a small or medium figure with this special attack, you may move the defending figure one space. Figures moved with this special attack ignore leaving engagement attacks and may not be moved closer to this Iron Legion Drone.
That said, it's not a very powerful special attack, and pretty much all the other Iron Men already have the repulsor blast theme and enemy movement mechanics down already. Might be worth exchanging that special attack for some other special attack or offensive power just for variety within the faction.
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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

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Wondering if we should get the Power Armor keyword in here.
No they’re robots not suits of armor.

I’m also not a fan of two bonding powers here that both get past the no additional turns language. Just creating longer turn chains in factions is power creeping and eventually everyone is going to be trying to sneak in free extra turns into factions to keep up.

The special attack is fine but nothing fancy.

As is I feel like they’re gonna be stronger than 120 points so your target is a little low.
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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

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This is a fun design. I like that their bonding works alongside Iron Man Mark V.

I agree that House Party Protocol seems unnecessary when you've already got the bonding in the first power.

You can reword the special attack to cut down the amount of words. The Iron Men have some extraneous wording in their powers like the falling damage line. There's also a few typos I fixed. The other powers should refer to "Iron Legion Drone" as well.
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REPULSOR BLASTS SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 5. Attack 3.
If an Iron Legion Drone inflicts one or more wounds on a small or medium figure with this special attack, you may move the defending figure one space. Figures moved with this special attack ignore leaving engagement attacks and may not be moved closer to this Iron Legion Drone.
That said, it's not a very powerful special attack, and pretty much all the other Iron Men already have the repulsor blast theme and enemy movement mechanics down already. Might be worth exchanging that special attack for some other special attack or offensive power just for variety within the faction.
Yeah, House Party is gonna go for sure.

Thanks for cutting down the language on the SA! Doing something different since the repulsor theme is already in the faction could work. My only hold up is that I'm not sure these guys did anything besides shoot some repulsor blasts LOL

The Iron Man wiki says that they have mini missiles, but I haven't seen anything like that in the movie clips/comics appearances with these guys.

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Wondering if we should get the Power Armor keyword in here.
No they’re robots not suits of armor.

I’m also not a fan of two bonding powers here that both get past the no additional turns language. Just creating longer turn chains in factions is power creeping and eventually everyone is going to be trying to sneak in free extra turns into factions to keep up.

The special attack is fine but nothing fancy.

As is I feel like they’re gonna be stronger than 120 points so your target is a little low.
Honestly I'm pretty sure I just forgot to put the no additional turns language when I wrote this design. Either way HPP will get dropped, most likely for some defensive, "sacrifice this ILD instead of the target" kind of thing. Still workshopping it.

I've got no strong feelings on Power Armor either way, I'll defer to you guys on that one.

I'm cool with weakening them a bit to hit 120. Comparing them to the uncommon Green Lantern, a defense drop might be a good start.
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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

Aren't they just Power Armor with AI running them, though? Seems like the same basic technology present in any Power Armor, just with a different operator, so it makes sense to me for them to be included in any Power Armor keyword synergies.

We have repulsor powers off other cards that could be reused if we want that here, yes?

That and a simple Power Armor power instead of the House Party power would make sense to me.

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Aren't they just Power Armor with AI running them, though? Seems like the same basic technology present in any Power Armor, just with a different operator, so it makes sense to me for them to be included in any Power Armor keyword synergies.
This design is based on the Iron Legion from Age of Ultron which are just androids and unable the be piloted. So I don’t see why they would have the Power Armor keyword.
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