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Old June 23rd, 2018, 11:37 PM
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Re: The Book of Cathar Spearmen

To me, boosting move for a squad from 4 to 5 is rarely not worth it. There's a noticeable gap in maneuverability between 4 and 5 movement, but then again, I'm more used to playing with knights and Romans than these guys. As dok said, the 2 range kind of mitigates the disadvantage of 4 move compared to other melee squads.

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Re: The Book of Cathar Spearmen

I would say use either Count Raymond or Marcus, but usually not both as it is better to have Raelin or Range support. I will say that the worst possible matchup I had against them is with Havech Eradicators on Ticalla Sunrise.
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Re: The Book of Cathar Spearmen

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If you use these guys without boosts, do they get wrecked by range squads? Is it worth investing in Count Raymond/ Marcus Decimus Gallus just to get that extra threat range against ranged opponents?

It is also worth noting that Marcus is a pretty good clean up figure, (3/3 with 6 life is not bad). Speed and first strike can be critical in winning matches, and they have pretty health defense already. Throw in some speedy 8th for range support, and you got a fairly sturdy solider army.


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Old June 25th, 2018, 01:44 PM
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If you use these guys without boosts, do they get wrecked by range squads? Is it worth investing in Count Raymond/ Marcus Decimus Gallus just to get that extra threat range against ranged opponents?

It is also worth noting that Marcus is a pretty good clean up figure, (3/3 with 6 life is not bad). Speed and first strike can be critical in winning matches, and they have pretty health defense already. Throw in some speedy 8th for range support, and you got a fairly sturdy solider army.
I'd rather have Count Raymond in clean-up, since even with 1 less life, he has a much better 4/4. That said, if you're taking more Soldiers, then Marcus is undoubtedly a better choice, given that Raymond's speed boost is practically limited to just the Cathar Spearmen. His attack boost is also notable, although not nearly as useful without bonding.

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Re: The Book of Cathar Spearmen

So which of these would be the sounder army given 4xCathar Spearmen, 18 hex limit:

+Quahon

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+Count Raymond
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Re: The Book of Cathar Spearmen

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So which of these would be the sounder army given 4xCathar Spearmen, 18 hex limit:

+Quahon

or

+Count Raymond
+110 point filler hero
Obviously this is not really relevant to your situation, but I thought it might be interesting to mention: in our tourneys, due to the restricted list, we would not allow both Quahon and the Cathars in the same army. There's absolutely no doubt it's a very strong army. But it's taking advantage of what are almost certainly the two most powerful units in C3Vin Classic terms, it's similar to building an army around Q9 and the minutemen.

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And I've seen some people on the Internet seem to have a problem with mixing this with the rest of the game, which makes no sense to me, because, I mean, you already are having knights fight robots, how is throwing Spider-Man into the mix that big of a deal?
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Re: The Book of Cathar Spearmen

In the current round of the GenCon Classic League online tourney, 30% of the armies are Q9, 10thx4. All that to say that mixing Cathars and Quahon is probably a great army as long as you're not playing reverse the whip, bring 2, cut the cake, or the like.
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Re: The Book of Cathar Spearmen

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In the current round of the GenCon Classic League online tourney, 30% of the armies are Q9, 10thx4. ...
Which is exactly why we instituted a restricted list. We got tired of seeing the same armies over and over again ...

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And I've seen some people on the Internet seem to have a problem with mixing this with the rest of the game, which makes no sense to me, because, I mean, you already are having knights fight robots, how is throwing Spider-Man into the mix that big of a deal?
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Re: The Book of Cathar Spearmen

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In the current round of the GenCon Classic League online tourney, 30% of the armies are Q9, 10thx4. ...
Which is exactly why we instituted a restricted list. We got tired of seeing the same armies over and over again ...
What kind of restricted list do you use?
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Re: The Book of Cathar Spearmen

We've had an active tournament scene in Maryland for 10 years. Never felt the need for a "Restricted List." But it depends on your local meta, I guess.

Don't feel you need one, is my suggestion, unless you actually do.

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In the current round of the GenCon Classic League online tourney, 30% of the armies are Q9, 10thx4. ...
Which is exactly why we instituted a restricted list. We got tired of seeing the same armies over and over again ...
What kind of restricted list do you use?
It's a "soft" restricted list: basically you can't have more than one from the list (full rules in the spoiler).

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In the current round of the GenCon Classic League online tourney, 30% of the armies are Q9, 10thx4. ...
Which is exactly why we instituted a restricted list. We got tired of seeing the same armies over and over again ...
What kind of restricted list do you use?
It's a "soft" restricted list: basically you can't have more than one from the list (full rules in the spoiler).

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I actually don't mind that idea too much, though I feel making the Knights and Gilbert mutually exclusive kind of neuters both of them....


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