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Old December 30th, 2020, 09:04 PM
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Re: The Book of Rogues Revolution Event (Public Tests)

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Tested using this post as the SP was not updated, FYI.

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NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Rogues Revolution Scenario

Army Test
Map: A Couple Puddles
Units: Rogues Revolution (250), Flash Barry, Kid Flash Wallace (640) VS Captain Cold II, Heat Wave, Weather Wizard I, Tar Pit, Pied Piper (640)
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Army Test
Map: A Couple Puddles
Units: Rogues Revolution (250), Tornado Twins, Flash Jay (690) VS Blacksmith, Murmur, Plunder, Magenta, Weather Wizard I (690)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Fun stuff. I really loved how Rapid Rotation allowed speedsters to send Tar Pit flying, thus avoiding the drawback of Stuck. Flash Time was very powerful. Flash Healing gives the speedsters a little more survivability but speedsters ultimately live or die by their dodge. One win and one loss, so I think this is fairly balanced.

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Old December 30th, 2020, 11:57 PM
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Re: The Book of Rogues Revolution Event (Public Tests)

Cool results! This looks like a winner.

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Re: The Book of Rogues Revolution Event (Public Tests)

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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Rogues Revolution

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Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Flash(Wally)(280), Rogues Revolution(240) (520)
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Blacksmith(210), Captain Cold(200), Heat Wave(110) (520)
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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Flash(Barry)(250), Rogues Revolution(250) (500)
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Blacksmith(210), Captain Boomerang(Owen)(135), Murmur(85), Trickster(Axel)(70) (500)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Works well as a concept, and feels balanced at 240-250. Both games felt like anyone's win. Didn't use Rapid Rotation, but there are situations where it'd come in handy.

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Re: The Book of Rogues Revolution Event (Public Tests)

Didn't manage to update the SP with the new Flash Healing, but doesn't look like it would have affected things much in Ark's games. Powers seem like they do a good amount to let the ball be in Team Flash's court without being too overbearing.

Do we want to let this sit for one more, or are we feeling good to move forward? I feel satisfied with it, but if people would rather wait and see at least one more game with a bigger speedster team I could see holding off.
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Re: The Book of Rogues Revolution Event (Public Tests)

Looks solid enough to me and Archie and Ark both give it a pass, so I'm personally happy to vote for it to move forward. Pre-yea if it helps.

I'll have to try this out when working on Team Flash stuff as a team filler.

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Re: The Book of Rogues Revolution Event (Public Tests)

Looks like you changed both the Back to Lockup and Flash Time powers...

C’mon man.
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Re: The Book of Rogues Revolution Event (Public Tests)

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Looks like you changed both the Back to Lockup and Flash Time powers...

C’mon man.
Yes, this week has been a very big reminder of my lack of remembering to update the SP (and I just didn't get a chance to update it last night when Archie tested).

Flash Time ultimately wouldn't have affected your game. Do you think Flash Healing would have changed much? Didn't seem like it based on your notes.
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Re: The Book of Rogues Revolution Event (Public Tests)

The healing bit is just a very different power in general. One has you hammering down on one Rogue to try and get the heal in time for that round, and sent back to the start zone for a bit of safety on their following turn. The other has all Speedsters healing just by not being engaged which means you can just run away, dodge, or bonus move away. They would play completely differently.

Yes, in my games I used 1 figure, but it still changes the approach, and the following turn possibilities for the opposing team.

I’m sure it’s still fine at 250 based on Archie’s games, but it’s not exactly a minor difference.
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Old December 31st, 2020, 11:03 AM
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Re: The Book of Rogues Revolution Event (Public Tests)

Hmm, guess I'm rescinding my pre-yea.

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Re: The Book of Rogues Revolution Event (Public Tests)

I more meant it from the perspective that it looked like Flash basically died to a whiff rather than the slow whittling down of health. It is definitely different and requires some different play. Seeing the difference was more why I left it open for at least one more test, as I don't know that it would be tremendously different in solo games, but is a definite difference in a team of Speedsters.
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Re: The Book of Rogues Revolution Event (Public Tests)

I feel like this is a type of thing that doesn't need a lot of testing, personally. It's limited to a very specific matchup and there have been 7 games with it overall (counting out Ark's games).
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Re: The Book of Rogues Revolution Event (Public Tests)

It may be fine as-is. My gripe is less on additional testing being needed, and more on testing(and enjoying) a design that’s not even relevant.

I also just think the version I played is more interesting than the current one, as it pertains to the healing at least, as I feel like it encourages you to stay on your opponent rather than play keep away. Speedsters are a pest as it is, and the current version could see a team of them just wasting time running out of range to burn rounds to heal. The previous one doesn’t allow for that, as you actively need to go into the fray to risk it for the biscuit.
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