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Re: The Case for a Valhalla Customs Master Set

I'm curious if there would be any support for a full fledged customs project, similar to C3V, C3G, SoV, ect that primarily worked with unpainted minis. Maybe each figure would have a simple paint guide. I don't know how many people on heroscapers paints, but if enough do it might be worthwhile.

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Re: The Case for a Valhalla Customs Master Set

I would be slightly interested in such a project, but that’s a bigger time investment than I can make at the moment, haha.
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Re: The Case for a Valhalla Customs Master Set

My apologies for only responding about a week later, but I think that I could elaborate a little more while preparations for the project continue on our end.

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I'm not sure what you mean about putting something under the "VC umbrella." You don't need us, and trying to get a consensus about approving a unit inside the C3V, absent the firm structure of the SoV (or something very much like it) is unlikely be successful.
By the "VC umbrella," I meant being recognized by C3V/SoV, both of which are the largest customs projects that currently exist for classic HeroScape. We can make excellent units on our own, but they could be easily overshadowed in that case.

Say, for example, that three years later, someone doesn't like part of a central Sgt. Drake-esque figure that we create. They decide to make their own unit with the sculpt, submit it to SoV, and it eventually passes. Suddenly, all of the scenarios and synergies that we establish in this set don't play nicely with VC anymore. People looking to get into the customs community, which is my personal goal here, will end up being more confused than they otherwise would've been.

I don't think that being accepted by VC is necessary to make a great unit by any stretch of the imagination. However, our goal here isn't only to make great units, but to expand the playerbase for VC and make it more approachable as a whole.

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Please just do your thing. I encourage you (whoever it is) to have a real, disciplined organizational structure. I do not think the C3V or the C3G would have been able to be productive for all the years those two have been productive, but for their structure.

The alternative to having an organized large workshop is to have a small one. The SoV is relatively unstructured, and the various map-approving groups have all been unstructured. Which has suited all of them, because they are small.

My sense from FS's post is that a group focused on these may already exist. Great! Make sure it's set up the way you want and have at it. You don't need anything from anyone else, but many of us will be happy to pitch in somehow as needed, if you ask.

I will say that one way this could work is just to put these units together as a slow train to the SoV. Over time, they should all get the C3V/SoV approval you want. It can be done. Otherwise, just don't worry about us at all, and do a good job.
We've been working on plans for getting this done, and we'll set up the project here on the forums when we're ready. I never thought that C3V alone should make all of these units for all of the reasons outlined in this thread, and we'll be happy to involve the community given that it doesn't have to be made within one of the existing structures.

The slow train to SoV is something that we've discussed, to ensure that there won't be overlapping designs or broken synergies added to break the set in the future, but designing for SoV isn't the main goal of the project. My concern there is that these units would be presented individually to the fans (since its custom for SoV approved units to have their own release) instead of as a box set.

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I'm curious if there would be any support for a full fledged customs project, similar to C3V, C3G, SoV, ect that primarily worked with unpainted minis. Maybe each figure would have a simple paint guide. I don't know how many people on heroscapers paints, but if enough do it might be worthwhile.
I can't paint to save my life. I'm a little more lenient on some unpainted figures than others (it bothers me only slightly more than a HeroClix base does), but I'm not convinced that there would be enough support for two continuous large creation projects in the long-term.
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