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Old January 16th, 2023, 01:08 AM
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Re: The Book of Giganto (Atlantean Beast) - Playtesting

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NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Giganto
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Army Test
Map: Mountain Spring.
Units: Sub-Mariner, Giganto X3 (1300) vs Doctor Doom (375), Doombot (95)x2, Iron Man (270), Black Panther (210), Stan Lee (50), Reed Richards (200) with Experimental Medicine, Web Pistol, Teleportation Belt, and Shrink Ray, Maggot Swarm (1300)
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Army Test
Map: Sacred Shrine.
Units: Sub-Mariner, Giganto, Atlantean Palace Guards, Skrull Imposter (800) vs Cap (I), Black Panther (II), Luke Cage, Human Torch (Android) (800)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: The first game was me trying out maximum Gigantos, Namor fell fast and it was a high ground map, so it was essentially a test of how they do in the worst case scenario as opposed to the second game where Namor had a guard in place which really helped maximize the Giganto’s rampage while Namor was protected. Namor hits harder near water which would normally make you want to just use him instead anyway, but WoD makes Giganto worth it.

Stats are solid, I like the high life.
HORN OF PROTEUS: You need to ensure you have other heroes who can grab it or moreso the guard for Namor, if the enemy gets ahold of whale control it is very bad for your team.
WAKE OF DESTRUCTION: Hits about half the time, which is reasonable. It’s a fun Godzilla power.
GIGANTIC IMPACT: Falling whale didn’t get used much overall, but it took out BP in that last game and stopped a bonding so that was cool.


TOYHANDLE'S THOUGHTS:
GAME 1:
3 Giganto is probably too much of a good thing. The map wasn't ideal either, since they had a high hill to climb. And up against the Doominati, it was a straightforward army vs a shenanigan army. Perhaps some decisions could have been made to make the game closer, like getting Namor to the mountain's base water earlier, and guarding him with Giganto, but I think the Giganto team were at a disadvantage due to having fewer tools to work with. This game showed that when the Horn falls into enemy hands, they can be their own worst enemy.

GAME 2:
Pretty close. Giganto smashed Cap really easily, but Black Panther took him down with three lucky 5-Skull attacks. Gigantic Impact took Black Panther with him, though. Although Namor had beefy defense from the Atlantean Guard pod, their podding made Namor susceptible to Torch's Special Attack burns.

OVERALL:
After one close loss and one massive loss, I don't think their stats need to change any. As is, he's ready for release, but Splash had a great idea to put Blob's Blubber as a power on the card. That would require some defensive stat changing and additional testing. I'm open to doing that, but this has been in playtesting for a while, so unless someone expresses interest in signing up, I'm fine releasing as is.


GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: It’s a must to draft with the Atlantean Guard as they will protect your King and give you more Giganto turns, as well as stopping the whales from falling into enemy hands. For the Gigantos themselves I wouldn’t draft more than two, but I very much like them as Uncommons.

The only downside is it feels like kind of a miss they don’t have Blubber, but it might be too late in the game to add that in. I'd also expand the Horn to Atlantean Queens as well for Mera and Namora/Namorita/Dorma.

Fun whales to smash opponents spices up the Atlanteans. The first game was bad moves on my part, I think given you sacrifice Namor turns to use Gigantos, the whales are worth cost.

Last note: Sub-Mariner, Giganto, Atlantean Guard, and Mera are a 1,000 point army I'd like to see.
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Re: The Book of Giganto (Atlantean Beast) - Playtesting

Probably want to add "this Giganto" language to the powers where need be.
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Old January 16th, 2023, 01:30 AM
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Re: The Book of Giganto (Atlantean Beast) - Playtesting

Added in "This Giganto" to the first power, and a "Queens" call-out to the Horn glyph. If Giganto had Blubber, would that trim his defense to 4? Would one more set of tests feasibly be enough to figure things out, or would that require two sets minimum?

Splash's 1000pt army idea would indeed be interesting, as well as:
Captain America (NA) (220), Human Torch (Jim Hammond) (150), Namor (280), and Giganto (350) (1000).
That one might not be super competitive, but it's at least a 1000pt Invaders team.
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Old January 16th, 2023, 01:46 AM
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Re: The Book of Giganto (Atlantean Beast) - Playtesting

Invaders, nice.
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Old January 16th, 2023, 10:07 AM
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Re: The Book of Giganto (Atlantean Beast) - Playtesting

I think we've moved away from "this NAME" uses. The aesthetic default is that it refers to itself unless the text makes it clear it's referring to others of the same name. (i.e. we don't say "this Batman" or "this Superman" or "this Iron Man" so we don't need to say "this Giganto").

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Re: The Book of Giganto (Atlantean Beast) - Playtesting

Ah I thought that was precedent for Uncommons.
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Old January 16th, 2023, 01:23 PM
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Re: The Book of Giganto (Atlantean Beast) - Playtesting

I totally missed that this guy was Uncommon. Disregard!

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Re: The Book of Giganto (Atlantean Beast) - Playtesting

I propose we move to Final Editing at 350 points.
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Re: The Book of Giganto (Atlantean Beast) - VOTE for Final E

yea
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Re: The Book of Giganto (Atlantean Beast) - VOTE for Final E

I think you want this here:

After moving, roll 1 unblockable attack die against each this figure Giganto moved through.

And here:

When this Giganto is destroyed, before removing it from the Battlefield you must choose 3 spaces in a straight line from one of the spaces this Giganto occupies.

yea

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Re: The Book of Giganto (Atlantean Beast) - VOTE for Final E

Done, thanks!
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Re: The Book of Giganto (Atlantean Beast) - VOTE for Final E

The impact area feels a little big. Could you get a pic of this figure on a map? Laying down preferably.
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