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Old January 3rd, 2021, 11:28 AM
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Re: The Book of Solomon Grundy (II) (Breathing)

No problem tweaking the numbers to make sure it's tolerable and fair. We can bump the throw to 3-9, and the wound to 10 or higher for starters. This gives it a higher chance nothing happens, higher chance of throw/hitting them away to avoid further damage, and of course lower chance of more wounding.
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After attacking, if the defending figure received one or more wounds and is engaged with Solomon Grundy, roll the 20-sided die. Subtract the defending figure's remaining Life number from the roll. If you roll:
• 3-9, place the defending figure on an empty space exactly X spaces from its current position, ignoring all leaving engagement attacks, then roll an unblockable attack die against a figure or Destructible Object adjacent to the defending figure. X equals the number of wounds the figure has received this turn; or
• 10 or higher, the defending figure receives 1 wound, then roll the 20-sided die again.
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Old January 3rd, 2021, 11:31 AM
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Re: The Book of Solomon Grundy (II) (Breathing)

I dig it. Keeps the Joker IV combo viable for the autowounds at low numbers. I think the placement still would allow placement adjacent to Grundy until you hit like 3 wounds, but not sure if there is a clean and simple way to do that that isn't adding like 2 sentences.
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Old January 3rd, 2021, 12:17 PM
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Re: The Book of Solomon Grundy (II) (Breathing)

You could do "in a straight line," though that obviously is a limiter in its own way.

I wouldn't mind lifting Organic Regeneration off of Groot instead of basic healing, or another swamp-based bonus to give him that swampy flavor, but I'm also fine just sticking with Healing here. He's more in "expy Hulk" mode for this design, so the horror elements aren't as important.
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Old January 3rd, 2021, 12:27 PM
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Re: The Book of Solomon Grundy (II) (Breathing)

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You could do "in a straight line," though that obviously is a limiter in its own way.

I wouldn't mind lifting Organic Regeneration off of Groot instead of basic healing, or another swamp-based bonus to give him that swampy flavor, but I'm also fine just sticking with Healing here. He's more in "expy Hulk" mode for this design, so the horror elements aren't as important.
I had Organic Healing on there originally, but went for more simplicity as I figure he's probably already going to be beefy enough. Not opposed to switching back if there's a desire though.
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Re: The Book of Solomon Grundy (II) (Breathing)

One thing that seems off narrative is that it seems like you are going for a swat away OR squeezing type of power but you aren't choosing an action. He attacks and then the type of attack is decided after the fact with a D20. What if it was a choice?

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After attacking, if the defending figure received one or more wounds and is engaged with Solomon Grundy choose one of the following:

place the defending figure on an empty space exactly X spaces from its current position, ignoring all leaving engagement attacks, then roll an unblockable attack die against a figure or Destructible Object adjacent to the defending figure. X equals the number of wounds the figure has received this turn; or

roll the 20-sided die and on 10 or higher, the defending figure receives 1 wound, then roll the 20-sided die again.

So it's a strategic decision?
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Old January 3rd, 2021, 08:07 PM
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Re: The Book of Solomon Grundy (II) (Breathing)

It was originally a choice but I suggested making it more uncontrolled to better fit the nature of the character.

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Old January 3rd, 2021, 09:00 PM
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Re: The Book of Solomon Grundy (II) (Breathing)

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It was originally a choice but I suggested making it more uncontrolled to better fit the nature of the character.
yeah it's just a weird uncontrolled thing though. it's different action completely to swing or grab something. You can add the roll to the swat part to make that not completely controlled. Sort of he swings and doesn't always know how hard he's hitting something and his target flies off somewhere.

I really want to like this but it's just really bugging me for some reason.
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Re: The Book of Solomon Grundy (II) (Breathing)

I think it’d be really weird for Grundy to be cunning and tactical.

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Old January 4th, 2021, 12:20 AM
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Re: The Book of Solomon Grundy (II) (Breathing)

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I think itd be really weird for Grundy to be cunning and tactical.
Yeah but even Grundy knows if he's grabbing something or swinging. That's sort of my point.
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Re: The Book of Solomon Grundy (II) (Breathing)

Maybe he hits the target with a punch initially (the normal attack), then while the target is dazed, he quickly decides between a "crush" or a "throw?" (And being Grundy, "quickly deciding" often leads to making the wrong decision?)
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I think it’d be really weird for Grundy to be cunning and tactical.
Yeah but even Grundy knows if he's grabbing something or swinging. That's sort of my point.
The theme is fine for me. The initial attack is him hitting his opponent once, if it connects, that opponent is now dazed.

Now that he has dazed them, he now starts to repeatedly slam/hammer fist them into the ground to their death. If they manage to fight back/get up, he throws them, potentially into someone or something.

The subtracting of their remaining life means the weaker they are, the easier it is for him to just decimate them without them fighting out of it.

We can tweak it to where the d20 rolling is done by the player controlling the defending figure, to better sell that theme. Injustice stuff likes the rolling to be on their side anyway, so it'll make a better pairing with Lex.
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After attacking, if the defending figure received one or more wounds and is engaged with Solomon Grundy, the player controlling that figure must roll the 20-sided die, subtracting 1 from the roll for each Wound Marker on that figure's card. If they roll:
• 8 or lower, the defending figure receives 1 wound, and that player must roll the 20-sided die again; or
• 9-13, place the defending figure on any empty space within 3-6 spaces of Solomon Grundy, ignoring all leaving engagement attacks. After the figure is placed, roll an unblockable attack die against a figure or Destructible Object adjacent to the defending figure.
Also updated the toss to just be a static 3-6 spaces, to force them away from Solomon Grundy, and just for simplicity.

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Re: The Book of Solomon Grundy (II) (Breathing)

Updated the SP.

I propose a vote to move to Initial Playtesting.

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