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[MrNobody]

He is very much an epic-level villain. At his peak level in RE5 he is shown as so fast he looks like he is teleporting, and is able to dodge bullets and fists with ease. He can pretty much puck up whatever he wants, has a super healing factor, and a rocket exploding in his face slows him down a little bit. In his final mutated form (which to be fair isn’t what I’m trying to represent here) he only dies because he gets shot by two rocket launchers at the same time while swimming in lava. He’s also a super-genius with a master plan and top-tier geneticist. I compared him to She-Hulk, who he is probably a bit less strong than, but also faster, smarter, and more ruthless than.

I’m thinking about maybe dropping Manipulator and replacing it with something else that ties in with zombies and experiments that’s a bit weaker. He doesn’t usually have direct control over most of these creatures anyways, and I realized this current draft makes him similar to IAmB’s take on the Leader.

[MrNobody]

NAME = ALBERT WESKER
SECRET IDENTITY = N/A

SPECIES = MUTATION
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = ???
PERSONALITY = AMBITIOUS

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = ???

VIRUS EXPERIMENTATION
Start the game with 3 red Virus Markers on this card. After moving and before attacking with Albert Wesker, you may choose an adjacent Unique Hero and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 14 or higher, you may place a Virus Marker from this card onto that figure’s card. Figures other than Albert Wesker with a Virus Marker on their card have the species of Mutation and the class of Experiment in addition to what is listed on their card, and add 1 to their Attack and Defense for each Virus Marker on their card. At the end of each round, you must roll 1 unblockable attack die against every figure other than Albert Wesker for each Virus Marker on their card.

APOCALYPTIC OPPORTUNIST (Not in love with this name)
If at least 1 Order Marker is on this card, add 2 to your initiative roll for each Order Marker on the Army Card of a Devourer or Experiment, up to a maximum of +8 for Apocalyptic Opportunist.

HEALING
At the end of the round, remove 1 Wound Marker from this card.

SUPERSTRENGTH

What about this take? He still wants to hang out with the right crowd (zombies and mad science experiments) but hopefully he's a bit more toned down. I also added a less powerful healing ability back in, but made him a bit more fragile so I hope that evens out.

[IAmBatman]

Not sure that healing power quite captures how hard he is to kill. For me, that's the main aspect of the character - not how hard he hits or how he controls experiments, but how friggin difficult he is to fully put down.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Not sure that healing power quite captures how hard he is to kill. For me, that's the main aspect of the character - not how hard he hits or how he controls experiments, but how friggin difficult he is to fully put down.

Hhmmmm, any suggestions? There are already worries about him being too powerful, hence why I went with Healing instead of Healing Factor on the 2nd take.

[Tornado]

I think he is suggesting dropping the experiment power and going all in on the healing.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by Tornado

I think he is suggesting dropping the experiment power and going all in on the healing.

Maybe I need to do a rewatch of all the cut-scenes from the games, but I think his longevity has to do with a lot more than just a healing factor. Here's the section on his abilities from the wiki;

Spoiler Alert!

The virus he injected also had the added ability of superhuman endurance and near-invulnerability; hardening his skeleton, internal organs, tissue, and skin, to the point that attempting to punch him or engage in hand-to hand combat would most likely result in fractured limbs on the part of the attacker. This is demonstrated in RE5 when attempting to attack Wesker up close as Chris during context sensitive events. Punching him will result in Chris grimacing and shaking the punching hand to alleviate the pain. The hardened skin is also such that it is quite capable of bending metal when struck against. This is demonstrated in the ending of Code Veronica, where Chris Redfield attempted to whack Wesker with a metal pipe, only for Wesker to block it with his arm, resulting in the pipe being bent out of shape. His durability was such that he was able to not only survive being caught in the epicenter of an explosion, but apparently not have any ill effects afterwards. This was demonstrated in the ending of Prelude to the Fall 2, where he was caught in the resulting explosion of a booby-trapped safe, yet managed wipe out several Hunter Deltas that congregated on him afterwards. In addition, during his attack at the Umbrella Russian Facility, Wesker was shown traversing down an extremely deep pit with only a few jumps.

Notable achievements of his superhuman speed, accelerated vision, and agility included being capable of dodging bullets at practically point blank range with nearly no effort (including rapid fire, multiple shot weapons, grenades, and Rocket Launchers), being able to cover great distances in short time (relatively equal to the time it would take using a fast vehicle), adhering to walls and ceilings like a spider (seen during his fight with Chris and Sheva on the Uroboros-loaded plane), and performing short dashes of speed faster than the normal Human brain could process (causing him to appear to be teleporting).

Notable achievements of his increased strength included being able to lift large missiles with one hand and throwing them, lifting large steel girders off his body, lifting an adult human off the ground with one hand effortlessly, thrusting straight through the chest of a person with his fingertips, killing a chimera B.O.W. with just one kick, sending someone flying with a single backhand swipe, punching an adult human with enough force to shatter a stone door behind them, punching a metal wall inside an airplane hard enough to leave a noticeable dent afterwards and even punching through the same wall later on, and punching through a solid sheet steel missile.

The injection also gave Wesker a low-level rapid healing factor which, coupled with his incredible endurance, rendered him nearly invincible to conventional damage. A rocket exploding right in his hands was only sufficient to stun him for a moment, and thousands of pounds of steel falling a few stories on top of him failed to even incapacitate him, merely dazing him for a few brief seconds, and despite having his face hideously burned, he quickly healed up. He also healed quickly after getting shot in the head by Sheva and falling a great distance out of a jet, and despite being overdosed by his serum. He also had a high tolerance to pain, at least short of being overdosed by the serum. This was evident with the fight on the bomber in RE5: Chris Redfield managed to land a couple of bullets into him and Sheva Alomar managed to stab Wesker in his forearm, with Wesker not giving any reaction to the injury. It is believed that, thanks to the virus, Wesker's youthful appearance was kept as he aged.

To me, there are a few reasons why he was such a long-lasting threat;
1. His superhuman abilities, obviously. (Including super strength, durability, speed, and healing)
2. Most of his enemies are just humans with no powers.There are plenty of super-powered creatures in the RE universe, but...
3. He's smart. He knows how to avoid being in the way of super-powered monsters. He knows when it's time to fight, and when it's time to cut his losses and flee.

That last point is part of what I was going for with Virus Experimentation. At several points in RE5, he'll betray an ally and mutate them into a horrible monster in order to serve as a diversion while he escapes.

To me, a Wesker that was just a rapid-healing beatstick wouldn't feel like Wesker at all. He's a megalomaniac supervillain with a plan, not just a brawler with a healing factor. But I also think Bats has a point that survivability is a big element of the character. What about moving things around, giving him Healing Factor and also something that ups his survivability in a different way?

NAME = ALBERT WESKER
SECRET IDENTITY = N/A

SPECIES = MUTATION
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = ???
PERSONALITY = AMBITIOUS

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = ???

VIRUS EXPERIMENTATION
Start the game with 3 red Virus Markers on this card. After moving and before attacking with Albert Wesker, you may choose an adjacent Unique Hero and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 14 or higher, you may place a Virus Marker from this card onto that figure’s card. Figures other than Albert Wesker with a Virus Marker on their card have the species of Mutation and the class of Experiment in addition to what is listed on their card, and add 1 to their Attack and Defense for each Virus Marker on their card. At the end of each round, you must roll 1 unblockable attack die against every figure other than Albert Wesker for each Virus Marker on their card.

BIO-HAZARD DIVERSION
Albert Wesker will not take leaving engagement attacks from figures adjacent to a Devourer or Experiment.

HEALING FACTOR
After taking a turn with Albert Wesker, remove 1 Wound Marker from this card.

SUPERSTRENGTH

Now, if he's in a bind, he can inject somebody and use them as a distraction while he runs off to heal up, which feels pretty Wesker to me. I also dropped his stats, but they can be fiddled with a bit. I could buy 5 attack/5 defense if that was needed to keep him balanced.

[MrNobody]

NAME = THE OPERATOR
SECRET IDENTITY = N/A

SPECIES = ENTITY
UNIQUENESS = EVENT HERO
CLASS = STALKER
PERSONALITY = DISTORTIVE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 8

MOVE = 0
RANGE = 3
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 1

POINTS = ???

SLENDER STALKER
The Operator does not start the game on the battlefield. At the start of the game, place the Operator on this card and place a black Symbol Marker on the card of a Unique Hero. Immediately after Order Markers have been placed for the round, if the Operator is not destroyed, you may place it on an empty space within 3 spaces of a figure with a Symbol Marker on their card. When rolling defense dice for the Operator, if you roll a shield or blank, the Operator takes no damage and you must immediately place it on this card.

THE SICKNESS
Instead of taking a turn with the Operator, you may choose a Unique Hero within 3 clear sight spaces of it and roll the 20-sided die, adding 3 to your roll for each Symbol Marker on that Hero's card.

• If you roll 1-10, nothing happens.
• If you roll 11-17, place a Symbol Marker on that Hero's card.
• If you roll 18 or higher, take temporary control of that hero and immediately take a turn with it. At the end of that turn, control of the chosen Hero returns to the player who controlled the Hero before the Operation. All Order Markers that were on the chosen Hero's card will stay on the card.

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Okay, here's my take, since there was at least a little interest. I had to cut a lot of his powers in order to fit all the text onto the card. He's coming up a bit shorter than Drac, but not having the Flying or SS symbols should help too, right? Anyways, more design thoughts here;

Spoiler Alert!

-I posted him outside of a quote so I could compare his text to Dracula's SP.
-Stalker is the best fit I could think of for class, but Tormentor could work too and would also fit him in with the horror crew.
-Distortive is an odd choice for personality, but it doesn't have much of a personality of its own.
-8 life is a small reference to Slender: The Eight Pages. Other than that, it's just an arbitrary high number.
-0 move, but he can teleport so hopefully that helps.
-He doesn't really attack conventionally, but his presence causes people to collapse and have horrible coughing fits. I had a power for that, but it didn't fit on the card so I just gave him a ranged attack to represent it instead.
-Not sold on the name for the 1st power. Another option I thought of was "Always Watching", a reference to the (absolutely awful) Marble Hornets tie-in movie, but I'd prefer to pretend that movie didn't exist, thank you very much.
-The Operator spreads like a disease. The more you're "exposed" to his presence, the more he intrudes on your life, and the more power he has over you. That and teleportation are the main themes I'm playing off of.
-One of the big differences between the MH Operator and classic Slender Man is that the MH version doesn't have tentacles.

I'm really interested to hear what @ALEXAN2507 (or anybody else with experience with MH) thinks of the design. It was really difficult to narrow down everything he does to ~20 lines of text.
If anyone is interested in getting into the series, here is all the videos in proper release order, and here is a guy analyzing it and filling in the (non-essential) off-youtube content.

[Tornado]

This is based on videos?
Pre-Nay

Try HoF.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by Tornado

This is based on videos?
Pre-Nay

Try HoF.

In the interest of fairness, there is a comic book in the works. However, I think “amateur youtube videos” is more than a fair place to draw the line for non-acceptable source material.

[ALEXAN2507]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

In the interest of fairness, there is a comic book in the works. However, I think “amateur youtube videos” is more than a fair place to draw the line for non-acceptable source material.

Once the comic is out I figure that makes it viable (maybe that's just me tho)

Plus, Marble Hornets is one of the strongest bits of Slendy writing, so it's definitely the version to use imo

[ALEXAN2507]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

NAME = THE OPERATOR
SECRET IDENTITY = N/A

SPECIES = ENTITY
UNIQUENESS = EVENT HERO
CLASS = STALKER
PERSONALITY = DISTORTIVE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 8

MOVE = 0
RANGE = 3
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 1

POINTS = ???

SLENDER STALKER
The Operator does not start the game on the battlefield. At the start of the game, place the Operator on this card and place a black Symbol Marker on the card of a Unique Hero. Immediately after Order Markers have been placed for the round, if the Operator is not destroyed, you may place it on an empty space within 3 spaces of a figure with a Symbol Marker on their card. When rolling defense dice for the Operator, if you roll a shield or blank, the Operator takes no damage and you must immediately place it on this card.

THE SICKNESS
Instead of taking a turn with the Operator, you may choose a Unique Hero within 3 clear sight spaces of it and roll the 20-sided die, adding 3 to your roll for each Symbol Marker on that Hero's card.

• If you roll 1-10, nothing happens.
• If you roll 11-17, place a Symbol Marker on that Hero's card.
• If you roll 18 or higher, take temporary control of that hero and immediately take a turn with it. At the end of that turn, control of the chosen Hero returns to the player who controlled the Hero before the Operation. All Order Markers that were on the chosen Hero's card will stay on the card.

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Okay, here's my take, since there was at least a little interest. I had to cut a lot of his powers in order to fit all the text onto the card. He's coming up a bit shorter than Drac, but not having the Flying or SS symbols should help too, right? Anyways, more design thoughts here;

Spoiler Alert!

-I posted him outside of a quote so I could compare his text to Dracula's SP.
-Stalker is the best fit I could think of for class, but Tormentor could work too and would also fit him in with the horror crew.
-Distortive is an odd choice for personality, but it doesn't have much of a personality of its own.
-8 life is a small reference to Slender: The Eight Pages. Other than that, it's just an arbitrary high number.
-0 move, but he can teleport so hopefully that helps.
-He doesn't really attack conventionally, but his presence causes people to collapse and have horrible coughing fits. I had a power for that, but it didn't fit on the card so I just gave him a ranged attack to represent it instead.
-Not sold on the name for the 1st power. Another option I thought of was "Always Watching", a reference to the (absolutely awful) Marble Hornets tie-in movie, but I'd prefer to pretend that movie didn't exist, thank you very much.
-The Operator spreads like a disease. The more you're "exposed" to his presence, the more he intrudes on your life, and the more power he has over you. That and teleportation are the main themes I'm playing off of.
-One of the big differences between the MH Operator and classic Slender Man is that the MH version doesn't have tentacles.

I'm really interested to hear what @ALEXAN2507 (or anybody else with experience with MH) thinks of the design. It was really difficult to narrow down everything he does to ~20 lines of text.
If anyone is interested in getting into the series, here is all the videos in proper release order, and here is a guy analyzing it and filling in the (non-essential) off-youtube content.

I dig it. It's a pretty accurate representation of how he works in Marble Hornets. I definitely think make him a Tormentor so that he works with the other horror dudes personally. Also, I think you could translate his "coughing aura" thing as a debilitating power rather than an offensive one- say, all units within three spaces of him suffer a stat reduction. That would make it reasonably short to fit on the card.
I don't think he should have a direct attack option- he never does, after all. Instead, maybe consider having The Sickness deal an autowound after taking the turn with the temporarily controlled hero.

With these suggestions in mind I'm envisioning him as a weird "horror support" character who weakens opponent's nearby figures for the rest of your army to attack, and pits your opponent's figures against each other- since he really never (that I recall) attacks anyone himself

[ALEXAN2507]

Oh, and have you considered renaming "Slender Stalker" to simply "The Slenderman"?

May as well reference his original name somewhere here