The Book of Hawkman (Carter Hall)

[TrollBrute]

Post-Yea

Also on board with him in the next Danger Room wave. Until then, we can get some tests from Heroes and Sidekicks too.

[TrollBrute]

Note with these games that I played Green Lantern and Doctor Mid-Nite with the proposed changes that would make them function better in the faction. I like the way those change work out, and I would be in favor of them. I still have a nagging feeling that I didn't have a perfect grasp on how to use the Mystery Men to their best, but it's also possible they're coming in a little weak right now. Really fun when you can get their synergy going though. Also note that I played Mister Terrific with the most recently discussed changes:

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Hawkman

Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Hawkman (220), Superman (Kal-L, 360), Starman (190), Flash (220) (990) VS Fantastic Four (1000)
Unit Summary:
Damage: 1 wound to Invisible Woman.
Golden Age Heroism:

• X OM removed 1 time; 3 figures moved.
• # OM removed 1 time; 2 extra turns taken, 4 extra dice rolled.

Spoiler Alert!

Round One Initiative went to the FF, but poor rolls from Reed (5,5,7) meant that the Four didn't get much going. Hawkman used the X to move the other Mystery Men on OM 1, allowing them to grab the high ground first and to have Starman pass the Shield Belt to Hawkman. The round ended before any wounds were dealt.

Round Two Initiative also went to the FF, but Reed failed his roll completely and failed to wound Superman. Hawkman removed the 3 OM, failed to wound Thing, but used Flash to switch Thing and Sue, pulling her away from the rest of the team. Flash also hit her for three wounds. With a 9 on his next Fantastic Leader roll, Reed used it to move Sue back to safety. With the next OM, Hawkman took a risk to move in next to Sue and Thing, KOing Sue. Superman also dealt a wound to Reed. Reed finally got a 19 on the final turn off the round, but Johnny failed both his Flame On 4 and his attack on Hawkman. Thing however managed to get through the Shield Belt and hit Hawkman for a couple wounds.

My notes got from this point on got deleted, but I remember that the FF won Initiative in the third round and KOed Hawkmen before he could activate Heroism. The Mystery Men would eventually take down Torch and Reed, but Superman fell before doing much damage. It eventually came down to a wounded Flash against Thing, with the bruiser coming out on top. This one was fairly close and some better Initiative rolls would have really helped the Mystery Men. Then again, Reed and Torch had pretty terrible rolls, so maybe it wasn't really that close.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): R6T1: Thing with 1/6 wounds.

Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Hawkman (220), Green Lantern (280), Starman (190), Flash (220), Sandman (80) (990) VS Fantastic Four (1000)
Unit Summary:
Damage: 3 wounds to Mister Fantastic.
Golden Age Heroism:

• X OM removed 2 times; 8 figures moved.
• # OM removed 2 times; 3 extra turns taken, 6 extra dice rolled.

Spoiler Alert!

Initiative once again went to the FF and they got a great start with Reed rolling an 18 and moving out the entire team. The Mystery Men also got a good start thanks to Hawkman removing the X and moving up the rest of the team. This also allowed Starman to pass off the Shield Belt to Hawkman and move up Sandman, who dropped the Sleeping Gas next to all of the FF. The Gas had a small effect on the round, and that plus GL’s Cage Marker prevented Torch from Flaming On. Sandman was the focus and he took a couple wounds. Flash and Torch each took one as well.

In the second round, Initiative went to the Mystery Men this time, which was huge, as Sandman once again put down the Sleeping Gas, Green Lantern Recharged, and Flash switched out Thing for Invisible Woman (Starman failed his roll). The FF’s first turn was blocked by the Gas, and so GA was able to use up his Boxing Glove and hit Sue for 4 wounds. He also used his Cage again on the next turn to prevent Torch from moving. Starman was able to finish off Sue with a chunk of concrete on the third OM, but Johnny and Reed got Sandman by the end of the round, and also dealt two wounds to GL.

With Initiative again in the Third Round, Hawkman removed the 3 OM and charged in on Reed. He hit him for a wound and had GL go after Torch, who died with a whiff. Thing got another wound on GL while Reed got through the Shield Belt and hit Hawkman for a wound. Starman threw Thing into the water and hit Reed for 2 wounds. A sopping wet Thing climbed out of the water and moved around to hit Flash for 2 more wounds to end the round.

The FF got Initiative, but Reed rolled a 1, then dealt two wounds to Hawkman. Hawkman finished off Reed, and Starman dealt a wound to Thing. Thing finished off Hawkman, but Starman threw him into the water again and hit him for two more wounds.

GL moved over and hit Thing for two wounds. Thing moved up and failed his attack. Starman finished off Thing.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): R5T3: Green Lantern with 3/4 wounds and no markers, Flash with 3/4, and Starman unwounded.

Army Test
Map: Swamp Lab
Units: Hawkman (220), Superman (Kal-L, 360), Flash (220) (800) VS Iron Patriot (290), Star-Lord (250), Archangel (260) (800)
Unit Summary:
Damage: 5 wounds to Archangel, 3 to Star-Lord.
Golden Age Heroism:

• X OM removed 1 time; 2 figures moved.
• # OM removed 3 times; 5 extra turn taken, 9 extra dice rolled.

Spoiler Alert!

Despite both teams having key figures without flying, both teams moved toward the wall. Patriot's team was helped largely by winning Initiative in the first two rounds. Once the teams were in place, Hawkman began sacrificing the 3 for doubled turns with the attack. Patriot meanwhile was struggling to get through anybody's defense for the first couple rounds. Archangel was slwoly putting wounds on figures with Razor Wing Slash though, and Patriot eventually cracked Superman to take him down. Flash actually went next, taking the front line against IP and editing against a 3-skull attack. Half-length held out for a round on his own, but he couldn't quite finish anyone off.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): R5T5: Iron Patriot with 4/5 wounds, Archangel with 5/6, Star-Lord with 3/5.

Army Test
Map: Swamp Lab
Units: Hawkman (220), Superman (Kal-L, 360), Flash (220) (800) VS Iron Patriot (290), Star-Lord (250), Archangel (260) (800)
Unit Summary:
Damage: 3 wounds to Archangel.
Golden Age Heroism:

• X OM removed 1 time; 2 figures moved.
• # OM removed 2 times; 4 extra turns taken, 8 extra dice rolled.

Spoiler Alert!

I thought the JSA had this one after the first couple rounds. They won Initiative in the first round, forcing Patriot's team to hang near their SZ. When Patriot died in the third round, things looked good. But Superman fell shortly after, and Hawkman struggled to deal wounds to Archangel. He did a few, but Angel and Star-Lord took him down at the end of the third round. Flash nearly took down Archangel, and dealt a few wounds to Star-Lord, but couldn't last on his own.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): R5T3: Star-Lord with 2/5 wounds, Archangel with 5/6.

Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Hawkman (220), Starman (190), Sandman (80), Doctor Mid-Nite (150), Mister Terrific (150) (790) VS Luke Cage (190), Iron Fist (260), Spider-Man (250), Ragdoll (100) (800)
Unit Summary:
Damage: 5 wounds to Iron Fist, 2 to Spider-Man.
Golden Age Heroism:

• X OM removed 3 times; 12 figures moved.
• # OM removed 4 times; 7 extra turns taken, 13 extra dice rolled.

Spoiler Alert!

In the first round , Heroism was used to move up the Mystery Men, with Mid-Nite dropping a Blackout Bomb, and Starman failing his roll. Luke Cage kept his army moving up, and healed a wound out of the two he received from Starman.

The second round had Heroism moving the JSA again, on the first turn this time, thanks to an Initiative win. Starman’s throw (+1 from Mister Terrific) and the Sleeping Gas and Blackout Bomb were all used. Lots of maneuvering meant that the only wounds were one each to Ragdoll and Sandman.

Heroism was used in the third round for the bonding, and with it, Hawkman and Starman managed to take down Luke Cage. Starman took three wounds in the round though, Terrific took two, and Sandman took one more, only surviving due to Iron Fist's sucky attack rolls against him.

Initiative in the fourth round went to the Fighters, but more bad rolls from Iron Fist meant he dealt no wounds on his three attacks. Hawkman used Heroism to move all of the JSA. This meant that Sandman placed his glyph, Mid-Nite placed his final Blackout Bomb and healed a wound from Starman, who threw (with +1 from Terrific) a chunk of ground at Spider-Man, dealing him a wound. During the rest of the round Spider-Man finished off Sandman and hit Starman for another wound, while Hawkman focused on Iron Fist and dealt him 3 wounds.

In the Fifth round, Hawkman and Starman finished off Iron Fist, but not before he dealt three wounds to Mid-Nite. Hawkman also managed a wound on Spider-Man. Spidey took out Starman and Mid-Nite.

In the Sixth and Seventh, Hawkman gave up the 3 for extra turns and dice. It may not have been the best strategy, but it ended up working. Spidey kept dodging Hawkman’s attacks, but not doing much damage on his turns. Mister Terrific KOed Ragdoll. The couple times Hawkman got past Spidey Senses, he only rolled a few skulls, and Spidey defended well, so he only took a wound on each attack. Right after the second of these though, in the Seventh round, Mister Terrific also got through and Spidey whiffed his defense.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): R7T3: Hawkman with 2/5 wounds, Mister Terrific with 3/4.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: It’s hard to judge Hawkman’s value because so much of it is tied directly into the Mystery Man faction. On top of that, his value each game can swing based on Initiative results. An Init loss at the wrong time can throw a major wrench in Hawkman’s plans. Right now, I would say he’s certainly not overcosted, but very valuable. I wouldn’t mess with his stats, and Golden Age Heroism works fine, I think. His cost works right now at 220, and it’s just a matter of working out the faction as a whole.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Man is it fun when you can pull off a big turn with Golden Age Heroism. I had two or three of those during these games where I got to do a bunch of fun stuff in one turn. It’s not crazy strong, but it is solid, super fun, and really makes the JSA seem like a team.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by TrollBrute

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Man is it fun when you can pull off a big turn with Golden Age Heroism. I had two or three of those during these games where I got to do a bunch of fun stuff in one turn. It’s not crazy strong, but it is solid, super fun, and really makes the JSA seem like a team.

That was my exact thoughts on it. I'm glad I've won you over on the proposed change to Green Lantern's recharge. I really love how the non-attack turn aspect of Golden Age Heroism has worked out.

[TrollBrute]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

That was my exact thoughts on it. I'm glad I've won you over on the proposed change to Green Lantern's recharge. I really love how the non-attack turn aspect of Golden Age Heroism has worked out.

I was fine with it before, but after playing it, I think it would help out both Green Lantern and Hawkman a bunch.

[IAmBatman]

I'll give that thread a bump.

[Zettian Juggernaut]

*bling*

NAME OF THE PLAYTESTING UNIT (Hawkman)

Version used:

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = HAWKMAN
SECRET IDENTITY = CARTER HALL

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = MYSTERY MAN
PERSONALITY = FIERCE
SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5
MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5
POINTS = 220

GOLDEN AGE HEROISM
Immediately after revealing a numbered Order Marker on this card, if all of your unrevealed Order Markers are placed on the cards of Unique Mystery Man Heroes, you may reveal and remove an unrevealed Order Marker from this card. If it is:

• an “X” Order Marker, instead of taking a turn with Hawkman, you may immediately take a turn with up to four other Mystery Men you control. During this turn, the chosen Mystery Men cannot attack and you cannot take any additional turns with other figures you control.
• a numbered Order Marker, for the remainder of the round all figures you control add one to their Attack number and after taking each turn with Hawkman, you may take one additional turn with one other Mystery Man you control, but cannot take any additional turns with other figures you control.

FLYING SYMBOL
SUPER STRENGTH SYMBOL

Army Test 1
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal Attack: #.
Power Usage:
Golden Age Heroism: Times used to:
- Move other figures 1.
- Activate other figures 2.
- Added a total of 4 attack dice.
Map: Conflict Chernobyl (no Glyphs).
Units: Army 1: Hawkman (220), Superman (Kal-L, 360), Starman (Ted Knight, 190), Flash (Jay Garrick, 220) (990) VS Army 2: Mr. Fantastic (235), Invisible Woman (215), Thing (325), Human Torch (Johnny Storm, 225) (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

First Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 2 on both Hawkman and Superman.
Army 2’s OMs: 3 on Mr. Fantastic and 1 on Thing.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Flash falls; Superman takes 5 wounds; Human Torch takes 4 wounds, Mr. Fantastic takes 1 wound. The battle is focused in the middle of the map.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY ONE: Golden Age Heroism: Superman, Flash, Starman, and Starman throws Hawkman out.
ARMY TWO: Human Torch moves over and fails to wound Superman; Mr. Fantastic moves out.
ARMY ONE: Superman puts 4 wounds on Torch.
ARMY TWO: Torch Supernova to put 4 wounds on Superman and 3 on Flash; Mr. Fantastic moves up and fails to finish Flash.
ARMY ONE: Superman takes 1 wound from a leaving engagement to put 1 wound Mr. Fantastic.
ARMY TWO: Thing moves out; Torch finishes off Flash; Invisible Woman moves out; Mr. Fantastic fails to damage.

Second Round:
Army 1’s OMs: All on Hawkman.
Army 2’s OMs: 3 on Mr. Fantastic and 1 on Thing.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Fan4 finish off the Mystery Men.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY ONE: Hawkman removes OM 3; then moves over and fails to wound Invisible Woman; Starman moves up and throws Invisible Woman back, then puts 1 wound and 1 Star Marker on Mr. Fantastic.
ARMY TWO: Invisible Woman moves back up and fails to wound Hawkman; Mr. Fantastic Stretch Walks over and also fails to wound Hawkman.
ARMY ONE: Hawkman fails to do damage to Mr. Fantastic; Superman moves over and puts 4 wounds on Invisible Woman.
ARMY TWO: Thing rolls 7 skulls out of 10 dice and one shots Hawkman; Mr. Fantastic moves over and finishes off Superman who rolled all skulls.
ARMY ONE: OM removed for Golden Age Heroism.
ARMY TWO: Torch and Thing finish off Starman.

Army 2 wins with 1 life Invisible Woman, 1 life Human Torch, 3 life Mr. Fantastic, and unwounded Thing.

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Army Test 2
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal Attack: 1 wound to Frank.
Power Usage:
Golden Age Heroism: Times used to:
- Move other figures 0.
- Activate other figures 2.
- Added a total of 2 attack dice.
Map: Conflict Chernobyl (no Glyphs).
Units: Army 1: Hawkman (220), Superman (Kal-L, 360), Flash (220) (800) VS Army 2: Frankenstein (320), Werewolf (Jason Russoff, 270), Lizard (200) (790)

Spoiler Alert!

First Round:
Army 1’s OMs: all on Hawkman.
Army 2’s OMs: 3 on Frank and 1 on Lizard.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Both teams move to the middle of the map; 3 wounds to Hawkman and 5 wounds to Frank.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: Frank moves out.
ARMY ONE: Hawkman removes OM 3 and moves out; Superman moves out.
ARMY TWO: Frank moves over and puts 2 wounds on Hawkman; Werewolf moves out and fails to do damage.
ARMY ONE: Hawkman puts 1 wound on Frank; Superman puts another 4 wounds on him.
ARMY TWO: Frank puts 1 wound on Hawkman; Werewolf fails again.
ARMY ONE: OM removed from Golden Age Heroism.

Second Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 3 on Hawkman and 1 on Superman.
Army 2’s OMs: 3 on Frank and 1 on Lizard.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Hawkman and Frank fall.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: Frank fails to wound Hawkman; Werewolf finishes of Hawkman.
ARMY ONE: OM lost.
ARMY TWO: Frank and Werewolf fail to wound Superman.
ARMY ONE: Superman finishes off Frank.
ARMY TWO: Lizard moves out and fails to wound Superman.
ARMY ONE: OM lost.

Third Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 2 on both Flash and Superman.
Army 2’s OMs: 2 on both Lizard and Werewolf.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Flash moves out to boost Superman. Superman takes 2 wounds, Lizard takes 4 wounds, and Werewolf takes 4 wounds, also heals 1 wound.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY ONE: Flash moves out and fails to do damage.
ARMY TWO: Lizard fails to wound Superman.
ARMY ONE: Superman puts 4 wounds on Lizard.
ARMY TWO: Lizard puts 2 wounds on Superman.
ARMY ONE: Superman puts 4 wounds on Werewolf.
ARMY TWO: Werewolf fails to do damage.

Fourth Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 3 on Superman and 1 on Flash.
Army 2’s OMs: 2 on both Lizard and Werewolf.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Werewolf falls; Lizard heals 5 wounds and takes 4 wounds.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: Lizard uses Regeneration to heal 1 wound.
ARMY ONE: Superman puts 2 wounds on Lizard.
ARMY TWO: Lizard uses Regeneration to heal 4 wounds.
ARMY ONE: Superman finishes off Werewolf.
ARMY TWO: OM lost.
ARMY ONE: Superman puts 2 wounds on Lizard.

Fifth Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 3 on Superman and 1 on Flash.
Army 2’s OMs: all on Lizard.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
ARMY ONE: Superman finishes off Lizard.

Army 1 wins with 4 life Superman and unwounded Flash.

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Army Test 3
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal Attack: 8 wounds to Catman, 4 wounds to Knockout, and 2 wounds to King Shark.
Power Usage:
Golden Age Heroism: Times used to:
- Move other figures 2.
- Activate other figures 7.
- Added a total of 14 attack dice.
Map: Conflict Chernobyl (no Glyphs).
Units: Army 1: Hawkman (220), Starman (Ted Knight, 190), Sandman (80), Doctor Mid-Nite (150), Flash (Jay Garrick, 220) (860) VS Army 2: Catman (170), Black Alice (190), King Shark (220), Knockout (290) (870)

Spoiler Alert!

(Catman chooses Hawkman for Big Game Tracker) First Round:
Army 1’s OMs: all on Hawkman.
Army 2’s OMs: 2 on Catman, 1 on Black Alice, and 1 on King Shark (Alice places the Shazam/White Thief Marker).
Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Everyone moves out expect Knockout. Catman takes 3 wounds and Alice takes 1 wound, but heals it up.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: King Shark moves out.
ARMY ONE: Hawkman removes the X OM; Mid-Nite moves out and place a Blackout Bomb; Sandman moves out and places the Sleeping Gas; Flash moves out; Starman moves out and throws Hawkman out.
ARMY TWO: Alice moves over and fails to wound Flash.
ARMY ONE: Hawkman removes OM 3; Hawkman moves over and puts 3 wounds on Catman; Flash moves over uses Disorienting Whirlwind to swap Sandman and Hawkman's place (putting Hawkman in the back) and puts 1 wound on Alice.
ARMY TWO: Catman fails to rolls a skull.
ARMY ONE: OM removed for Golden Age Heroism.

Second Round:
Army 1’s OMs: all on Hawkman.
Army 2’s OMs: 2 on Catman, 1 on Knockout, and 1 on King Shark.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Catman takes 3 wounds, Mid-Nite takes 1 wound and Flash takes 1 wound.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: Catman fails to do damage.
ARMY ONE: Hawkman removes the X OM; Sandman places the Sleeping Gas; Mid-Nite moves over and places a Blackout Bomb; Flash moves over and swaps Alice and Mid-Nite; Starman moves over and fails his Gravity Rod roll.
ARMY TWO: Catman moves up and puts 1 wound on Mid-Nite; King Shark's turn is stopped by Sleeping Gas.
ARMY ONE: Hawkman removes OM 3; Hawkman moves over and puts 2 wounds on Catman; Flash moves over and swaps Sandman and Catman, then puts 1 wound on Flash.
ARMY TWO: Knockout moves out and uses Apokoliptian Grappling to swap with Flash and put 1 wound on him, then fails to wound him with her normal attack.
ARMY ONE: OM removed.

Third Round:
Army 1’s OMs: all on Hawkman.
Army 2’s OMs: 2 on Catman, 1 on Knockout, and 1 on Alice.
Initiative goes to Army 1 (Alice places the Hellfire marker on her card).
Round Sum-up: Catman and Alice fall; Knockout takes 1 wound.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY ONE: Hawkman removes OM 3; Hawkman moves over and finishes off Catman; Starman moves over and moves a terrain piece over to wound Alice, then puts another wound on her.
ARMY TWO: OM lost.
ARMY ONE: Hawkman moves up and puts 1 wound on Knockout (Knockout choose Hawkman for Smitten); Starman moves a terrain piece over, fails to wound Knockout, then finishes off Alice.
ARMY TWO: OM lost.
ARMY ONE: OM removed.
ARMY TWO: OM lost.

Fourth Round:
Army 1’s OMs: all on Hawkman.
Army 2’s OMs: 2 on both Knockout and King Shark.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Knockout falls; Hawkman takes 3 wounds.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: Knockout swaps with Hankman and puts 3 wounds on him.
ARMY ONE: Hawkman removes OM 3; Hawkman moves up and puts 4 wounds on Knockout who failed to roll a shield; Starman throws another terrain piece to finishes off Knockout and fails to wound King Shark.
ARMY TWO: OM lost.
ARMY ONE: Hawkman moves over and fails to wound King Shark; Flash moves over and swaps Sandman and Hawkman, then fails to wound King Shark.
ARMY TWO: King Shark fails to wound Flash.
ARMY ONE: OM removed.

Fifth Round:
Army 1’s OMs: all on Hawkman.
Army 2’s OMs: all on King Shark.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Hawkman falls; King Shark takes 4 wounds and Starman takes 1 wound.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY ONE: Hawkman moves over and puts 2 wounds on King Shark; Starman throws Hawkman over and puts 2 wounds on King Shark.
ARMY TWO: King Shark takes 2 disengagements (no wounds) to move over and finishes off Hawkman.
ARMY ONE: OM lost.
ARMY TWO: King Shark fails to wound Starman.
ARMY ONE: OM removed.
ARMY TWO: King Shark puts 1 wound on Starman.

Sixth Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 2 on both Starman and Flash.
Army 2’s OMs: all on King Shark.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Starman falls; Flash takes 2 wounds.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: King Shark puts 1 wound on Starman.
ARMY ONE: Starman puts 2 wounds on King Shark who failed to roll a shield.
ARMY TWO: King Shark finishes off Starman.
ARMY ONE: OM lost.
ARMY TWO: King Shark moves over and puts 2 wounds on Flash who also failed to roll a shield.
ARMY ONE: Flash finishes off King Shark.

Army 1 wins with 1 life Flash, 3 life Dr. Mid-Nite, and unwounded Sandman.

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Hawkman and the mystery men can be a little of a trick to get in position, but if you do, they are awesome and pretty solid. I don't see the Mystery Men faction being really great, but they will be a lot of fun to play.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: I love the turns you can pull off with Hawkman, like having Sandman place the Sleeping Gas, then run one of your figures into it, and finish it off with Jay swapping your figure with an enemy figure. Overall, I think Hawkman feels balanced.

[IAmBatman]

Nice! I'm really liking how he's looking right now. We might only need one or two tests by the time we get him to the Danger Room.

[IAmBatman]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: (MISTER TERRIFIC (TERRY SLOAN))
Army Test
Map: Custom (HYDRA GEHENNA BASE with 2 small houses instead of platforms)
Units: Mister Terrific (Terry Sloan) (140), Hawkman (Carter Hall) (220), Starman (Ted Knight) (190), Flash (Jay Garrick) (220), Doctor Mid-Nite (150), Sandman (Wesley Dodds) (80) (1,000) VSFantastic Four (1,000)

Damage Done: 5 Wounds to Invisible Woman.

When they were KO’d: N/A

Man of a Thousand Talents: Used in Round 1 to move Mister Terrific up 4 spaces, then to give a +1 to Gravity Rod. In Round 2 and 3, Sandman advances 4 spaces each. Nets three extra skulls in Round 3 attacks on Invisible Woman. Nets two extra shields in Round 3 and 4 each to defend Thing’s attacks. Nets one extra shield in Round 5 to defend Thing’s attack.

Champion of All Things Fair: During Round 1, this was used to help spare Starman from an early wound when he whiffed on an attack from Human Torch. In Round 2, it grants a reroll to Flash, but the second roll is poor as well. Round 4, helps Hawkman avoid 2 wounds.

Mister Terrific shone here, especially with his rerolls letting him act as a meat shield while the rest of the JSA circled around, strategically moving figures and then picking them off. Champion of All Things Fair saved allies from three wounds, which helped keep the whole team together more effectively. The combination of Hawkman and Mister Terrific really brings this faction together powerfully.
The dice seemed to slightly favor the JSA overall here and the Fan Four is the type of team that if they lose a key piece early, they tend to lose big, but Mister Terrific felt a tad undercosted for how well he performed here.

Spoiler Alert!

ROUND ONE: Fan Four rolled well, holing up in one house with Thing and Mister Fantastic covering two entrances and Invisible Woman using sight lines through the windows to provide her boost as Human Torch advance scouts and attacks Starman (he would’ve scored a wound were it not for Champion of All Things Fair).


The JSA led with Hawkman taking height, Starman moving up, and then an “X” marker uber turn to round it out thanks to Golden Age Heroism, in which Starman (boosted by Man of a Thousand Talents) tries and fails to fling a rock tile at Human Torch, then flies to height, Flash runs through Mister Terrific and Human Torch, swapping their positions, and Sandman runs around behind Hawkman to get ready for the next round.

ROUND TWO: JSA gets initiative. Doctor Mid-Nite moves up next to Hawkman and Sandman and places a Blackout Bomb to help their defenses. Flash runs into the house, swapping Invisible Woman and Mister Terrific, so Flash and Mr. T. are in the house with Thing and Mister Fantastic, and Invisible Woman is out in the open. Then Sandman fires off his Sleeping Gas, hoping to trap Invisible Woman on the spot.

Invisible Woman, unshaken by the gas, flies back to the doorway next to Mister Fantastic (still outside the door, but protected on one side at least) and Mister Fantastic socks the Rubber Wrapped Flash for two quick wounds. Hawkman tags Human Torch for one wound. Thing swings at Flash (4 skulls), but the speedster dodges with ease. Human Torch goes Supernova, rolling miserably (2 skulls), but still hits Sandman and Doctor Mid-Nite for one wound each (Hawkman is not scathed). Mister Fantastic can’t hit Flash (who’s rolling like a champ) either.

Hawkman takes advantage of his high ground and KO’s Human Torch. Thing pummels Flash, KOing him, despite a reroll granted by Champion of All Things Fair. Mister Fantastic attacks Mister Terrific, but can’t land a blow.

ROUND THREE: Mister Fantastic goes first, but Man of a Thousand Talents grants a move to Sandman so that he is right outside the house now. Invisible Woman disengages from him and flies inside, hitting Mister Terrific for his first wound. Thing fails to hit Mr. T., but Mr. Fantastic lands a second wound on him.

Then Mister Terrific switches to his reroll power as Hawkman activates, shedding OM3 for some double turns. Hawkman flies next to the house, but can’t attack yet. He has Mister Terrific go, and thanks to the attack boost and the reroll (each of which accounted for an extra skull), Mr. T. lands two wounds on Invisible Woman.

Mister Fantastic rolls terribly, but takes things into his own hands, leaving the house to tie up Sandman and Hawkman, and hitting Sandman for a second and third wound. Hawkman charges through Invisible Woman’s aura to hit Mister Fantastic for one wound. Mister Terrific KO’s Invisible Woman thanks to the reroll netting 2 extra skulls (for a total of 4). Thing, with a +1 for Clobberin’ Time, tries and fails to hit Mister Terrific (2 extra shields on the reroll), then Mister Fantastic KO’s Sandman.

ROUND FOUR: Hawkman activates Golden Age Heroism by burning OM3. Starman, on height, throws a rock hex at Mister Fantastic, but can’t wound him. Neither can Starman’s attack, on height, boosted by Golden Age Heroism. Then Starman puts a star marker on Mister Fantastic and Hawkman’s boosted attack breaks through Mister Fantastic’s weakened defenses for one wound.

A highly peeved Thing swings at Mister Terrific, whose Thousand Talents let him get 2 extra shields on the reroll, saving him again. He takes one wound and is down to one life. Mister Fantastic, weakened by the Star Marker, attacks Hawkman, who whiffs, but is saved by Champion of All Things Fair, and ends up taking only one wound instead of three.

Starman throws a rock tile at Mister Fantastic, failing to wound him, then hits Mister Fantastic from range and height with Golden Age Heroism boosted him, landing three wounds to finish Mister Fantastic, wiping out OM2 and OM3 from the Fan Four. Ouch!

Then Starman puts a Star Marker on Thing and Hawkman flies inside and attacks Thing, landing four wounds on the weakened Adventurer.

ROUND FIVE: Thing, on his own, smacks Hawkman for one wound. Hawkman sheds the “X” marker for Golden Age Heroism and Starman fails to throw Thing with Gravity Rod, but does put a Star Marker on him, Hawkman takes a wound from disengaging with Thing, then Doctor Mid-Nite moves up, placing a Blackout Bomb to protect Hawkman, Starman, and himself, then using Physician 16 to remove 2 wounds from Hawkman.

Thing can’t land a hit on Mister Terrific. Hawkman flies back into the house and lands a fifth wound on Thing. Weakened Thing rolls 3 skulls against Mister Terrific, whose reroll gives him one extra shield to block. Starman finishes Thing with an attack from height.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Mister Terrific with 1 Life, Hawkman with 4 Lives, Doctor Mid-Nite with 3 Lives, and Starman with Full Life win Turn 6, Round 5.

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Army Test
Map: Custom (HYDRA GEHENNA BASE with 2 small houses instead of platforms)
Units: Mister Terrific (Terry Sloan) (140), Hawkman (Carter Hall) (220), Starman (Ted Knight) (190), Flash (Jay Garrick) (220), Doctor Mid-Nite (150), Sandman (Wesley Dodds) (80) (1,000) VSCyclops, Angel, Jean Grey, Professor X, Beast, Iceman (1,000)

Damage Done: 2 Wounds on Angel, 1 Wound on Jean Grey.

When they were KO’d: End of the game

Man of a Thousand Talents: Used at the start of Rounds 2 and 3 to advance Hawkman 4 spaces. Used frequently for attack and defense rerolls.

Champion of All Things Fair: Saves Doctor Mid-Nite from a wound in Round 3, and Flash from a wound in Round 4.

Summary of the game:
This was a solid match up. Losing Starman early really hurt the JSA, but they battled back, thanks largely to the contributions of Mister Terrific, Hawkman, and Flash, who each empowered each other well. Sandman had two key Sleeping Gas turn losses for Prof X. as well, but the synergy of the X-Men just couldn’t be held down, with Jean and Angel keeping Prof X. alive to the end.

Spoiler Alert!

ROUND ONE: Prof X moves up Jean Grey, who pulls Beast next to her, then Cyclops runs alongside her. Mister Terrific moves into the house, priming his Thousand Talents to protect him with rerolls as necessary. Angel flies Professor X into the center of the other house and Iceman trails behind to block the back door. Now only a workaround through the side door on the far end of the house will allow someone to engage Prof X. Starman flies into the house beside Mister Terrific, but fails to use his Gravity Rod to pull Flash along with him.

Cyclops uses his Optic Blast to fire at Mister Terrific through a window (rendering his Thousand Talents meaningless with the special attack) but rolls poorly and Mr. T. blocks. Jean then spots Starman through an uncurtained window, uses her telekinesis to rip him through the glass, landing one wound, then blasts him for three more wounds (he rolls one shield, so Champion of All Things Fair doesn’t kick in). This early death for Starman is a killer, as he probably benefits from Golden Age Heroism more than anyone.

Still, Hawkman goes, activating Golden Age Heroism with the “X,” and sending Flash through Jean Grey and Mister Terrific to swap them (Psionic Grip fails), and sending Sandman and Doctor Mid-Nite into the house with Jean (but since it’s the end of the round and there are no wounded Mystery Men, there’s no point in using Blackout Bombs, Physician 16, or Sleeping Gas Gun).

ROUND TWO: Prof X goes first and Thousand Talents moves Hawkman along the back of the house with Jean and the Mystery Men in it. Beast moves up and attacks both Mister Terrific (one wound despite Inspiring Speedster) and Flash (no need for Champion of All Things Fair). Jean throws Sandman for one wound, but can’t hit him with her attack.

Hawkman sheds the “X” for Golden Age Heroism and sends Flash to swap Beast and Professor X, sends Doctor Mid-Nite to drop a Blackout Bomb where it protects Angel, Flash, and Mister Terrific, then use Physician to cute Mister Terrific of a wound, and have Sandman get caught up in Psionic Grip so he can’t move, and get stuck shooting his Sleeping Gas so that it affects Doctor Mid-Nite, Flash, Mister Terrific, Professor X, and Cyclops. Mister Terrific’s Thousand Talents lets Hawkman advance 4 spaces. Then Professor X has his turn cancelled due to Sleeping Gas.

Mister Terrific switches to rerolls and Hawkman flies next to Prof X, who cancels his attack with Psychic Defense X. Then Prof X again succumbs to sleeping gas! Hawkman finishes the round by rolling a terrible failed attack on Prof X.

ROUND THREE: Hawkman starts it off, shedding OM3 to activate Golden Age Heroism. He attacks Cyclops for one quick wound, then has a beefed up Mister Terrific reroll his way into 5 skulls against Prof X, who sheds his X Marker for Psychic Defense X. Prof X calls over Angel, who fails an attack against Mister Terrific even without a reroll. Cyclops avoids a swipe from Hawkman and lines up an Optic Blast that hits Doctor Mid-Nite for one wound (would’ve been two if not for Champion of All Things Fair) and can’t hit Mister Terrific or Angel.

Hawkman targets Professor X, landing two solid wounds on the X-Men leader. Angel responds promptly, moving Prof X back into the house.

Then Doctor Mid-Nite throws a Blackout Bomb where it protects Flash, Mister Terrific, Hawkman, and himself, and hits Cyclops for a second and third wound.

Professor X has Cyclops level an Optic Blast at Doctor Mid-Nite and Mister Terrific, but the Inspiring Speedster/Blackout Bomb combo keeps them both safe. Then Jean throws Sandman for a wound, but can’t hit him for any more (hot D20, cold combat dice).

Hawkman surprises Jean by flying around the corner of the house and knocks the snot out of Cyclops, KOing him. Sandman shoots sleeping gas in the house with Jean, but can’t hit her. Prof X finishes the round by sending Beast after Flash and Mister Terrific (he can’t hit either), and having Jean fight off sleep, fail her throw, but then at least hit Sandman for a third wound.

ROUND FOUR: Big initiative roll here, which goes to the X-Men. Jean KO’s Sandman. Beast tags Mister Terrific for two wounds (rerolls are no help), Doctor Mid-Nite for one, and Hawkman for none.

Hawkman sheds the “X” and sends Doctor Mid-Nite to drop his last Blackout Bomb where it’ll help him and Hawkman, then use Physician to heal one wound (almost two!) off of Mister Terrific, then send Flash to switch Mister Terrific with Prof X in the house, then try and fail to move himself closer to Prof X (Psionic Grip preventing him).

Prof X has Beast KO Doctor Mid-Nite, but fail to hit Hawkman. Jean comes out of the house to help tie down Hawkman, but can’t wound him. Hawkman breaks through Psionic Grip, takes a swipe from Jean, but then only rolls one skull on Prof X, which the Professor blocks. Prof X has Jean toss Hawkman for a second wound (her attack on him fails), then has

Iceman attack Flash, wherein Flash whiffs but Champion of All Things Fair helps save him from one wound.

Mister Terrific hits Angel for 2 wounds (thanks to two extra skulls from rerolls), but Angel flies out of the house and moves Professor X to a safe spot.

ROUND FIVE: Hawkman sheds the OM3 for double turns, fails an attack on Jean, then has Flash swap Mister Terrific and Angel, sending Angel back to the house, and having him and Mister Terrific engage Prof X. Prof X. has Jean hit Hawkman for a third wound (her throw failed, but her attack landed despite Flash and Mister Terrific being close enough to help), then has Angel fly over (Angel then whiffs an attack on Flash).

Hawkman fails to hit Jean for any wounds, but Flash tags her for three. Prof X. has Beast come over, and he fails to hit Flash, but does KO Hawkman. Then Jean hits Flash for 2 wounds (nothing like accidentally rolling the first six dice first, whiffing, and praying the last one will be a skull so you can reroll, only to see it turn shield!). The extra turn for the X-Men can’t net them any more wounds on Flash.

ROUND SIX: Flash starts it off with a big 5 skull attack roll from height that KOs Angel. Prof X. has Jean and Beast both try and fail to hit Mister Terrific (rerolls helped) and Flash. Jean does manage to put Mister Terrific on height disadvantage to Beast, though.

Mister Terrific goes next, using his rerolls to intimidate Prof X. into shedding the “X” marker. Prof X. has Beast KO Flash, then rerolls save Mister Terrific from taking any wounds from Beast or Jean, but Jean does at least move Mister Terrific into engagement with her and away from the Prof.

Mister Terrific is stuck next to Jean thanks to Psionic Grip and KOs her. Prof X. sends Iceman out from the house (no luck) and follows with Beast on height (this time rerolls can’t save Mister Terrific). Beast KO’s Mr. T. to end it.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Professor X with 2 Life, and Iceman and Beast with Full Life win Turn 5, Round 6.

[IAmBatman]

I'm hoping to run more tests with both Hawkman and Mister Terrific, but they both had solid performances here. I'm thinking a ten point bump to each might be in order. Not sure it's necessary yet, though, especially since I'm really digging that 1,000 point team I played!

[Viegon]

I posted a couple games in Mister Terrific's thread with Hawkman included.

[japes]

I've started this card so that there isn't as much of a rush to the finish line.

[japes]

By the way the Background link points to Atom's thread and the image we used there.