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Old August 20th, 2020, 07:02 AM
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Re: A Melee Perspective on the HeroScape Power Rankings

I feel like Raelin is only limiting to your mobility if you choose to play that way. The reason Knights/Raelin can be so good is that because of their base 4 def, they aren’t scared to leave her aura, unlike other armies you would play Raelin with. Put one OM on Raelin early to protect your slow roll, and then on an OM 3 throw her right in the middle of the action and make your opponent choose between 6 def Knights or spending multiple turns ignoring the Knights to kill Raelin.

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Old August 20th, 2020, 11:22 AM
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Re: A Melee Perspective on the HeroScape Power Rankings

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I feel like Raelin is only limiting to your mobility if you choose to play that way. The reason Knights/Raelin can be so good is that because of their base 4 def, they aren’t scared to leave her aura, unlike other armies you would play Raelin with. Put one OM on Raelin early to protect your slow roll, and then on an OM 3 throw her right in the middle of the action and make your opponent choose between 6 def Knights or spending multiple turns ignoring the Knights to kill Raelin.
You can certainly play Raelin with knights, sure. That doesn’t necessarily make them better. Every order marker you put on Raelin is 8 knights that didn’t move. It’s also sacrificing a squad of knights. That’s 4 more guys with 3 atk and 4 def.

What happens when you move Raelin to a perch and the 4th mass just stay 6 spaces out and pick off the wings? Do you just leave the aura and engage, if so why bother with Raelin? Do you sacrifice moving 8 knights and possibly 4 attacks by moving Raelin up?

I’m not saying knights with Raelin is bad. I’m saying knights without Raelin is better. I’m also talking pure melee bonding. Like I mentioned earlier I’ve seen Chris Perkins use knights, Thorgrim, Raelin as a wall of sorts for his ranged units, but that’s not what I’m talking about.

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Re: A Melee Perspective on the HeroScape Power Rankings

The Perkins Pod uses the Knights as defense, not offense. The range units are the offense in that army, which is vastly different than how traditional Gilbert and X Knights works.

That being said, Raelin Knights isn’t bad, but if I’m not going straight Knights, I’m probably bringing Nilf instead. There’s a reason that 3x Knights, Gilbert, Nilf has won Jandar at least once (my dad won Jandar in 2013 or 2014 with that, and I don’t think he was the first).
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Re: A Melee Perspective on the HeroScape Power Rankings

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The Perkins Pod uses the Knights as defense, not offense. The range units are the offense in that army, which is vastly different than how traditional Gilbert and X Knights works.
That's a great way to put it.

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I also think it's interesting that Greenscales, which a lot of people were worried about being broken way back in the day, are considered to have a pretty bad melee matchup so aren't that scary.

My loss in day 2 was to Knights, so that mostly checks out with my limited experience with Greenscales competitively. Before I played that Arrow Grut build in 2011, I think I went 2-4 with the Greenscales at the TTO in 2010.

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Re: A Melee Perspective on the HeroScape Power Rankings

I have updated the most important power rankings with the new AoA stuff. Obviously, most of it is speculation at this point, but I’m a pretty smart guy.

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