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Old March 9th, 2016, 07:24 PM
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Awesome to see Scott Lang. I love his character (thought the film was a major letdown though), but I've never come up with a full design for him. I agree that Small but Mighty is too much for one power, and that it would be best to focus on either his small size or his thieving skills, but not both. I lean more toward what you had in Small but Mighty, but either direction is fitting.

The only thing I had for Scott was:

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• If you roll 14 or higher, you may immediately take a turn with up to two Adventurer or Insect Heroes you control.
I thought it would be a cool way to represent both his insect control and his time a leader of the Future Foundation.

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Old March 9th, 2016, 07:40 PM
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FF was a great run and that power's a great way of representing it, but I'd rather not hit on his FF leadership for this design. Adventurer synergy would drive his points up and make it hard for him to be worked into his other thematic builds.

I don't think it'd be too hard to eventually justify doing a Scott II for a version that could be folded into the Adventurers synergy. His portrayal in FF is a bit different from his classic/current status quo, anyway.
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Old March 9th, 2016, 07:42 PM
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FF was a great run and that power's a great way of representing it, but I'd rather not hit on his FF leadership for this design. Adventurer synergy would drive his points up and make it hard for him to be worked into his other thematic builds.

I don't think it'd be too hard to eventually justify doing a Scott II for a version that could be folded into the Adventurers synergy. His portrayal in FF is a bit different from his classic/current status quo, anyway.
Fair enough. I just think it's been this long and we don't have a Scott I, the odds of a Scott II aren't as great. It does make sense to separate his Thief abilities from his time as a leader, since they're somewhat distinct times.

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Old March 9th, 2016, 07:46 PM
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Yeah, a Scott II seems pretty far off with Scott still being hashed out in the public. But his profile's gone way up lately, so he's got that going for him.
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Old March 9th, 2016, 08:06 PM
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Yeah, a Scott II seems pretty far off with Scott still being hashed out in the public. But his profile's gone way up lately, so he's got that going for him.
I would have done him a year ago but couldn't come up with something that differentiated him from the rest. Good stuff going on here now.

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Old March 9th, 2016, 11:27 PM
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FF was a great run and that power's a great way of representing it, but I'd rather not hit on his FF leadership for this design. Adventurer synergy would drive his points up and make it hard for him to be worked into his other thematic builds.

I don't think it'd be too hard to eventually justify doing a Scott II for a version that could be folded into the Adventurers synergy. His portrayal in FF is a bit different from his classic/current status quo, anyway.
Fair enough. I just think it's been this long and we don't have a Scott I, the odds of a Scott II aren't as great. It does make sense to separate his Thief abilities from his time as a leader, since they're somewhat distinct times.
In which case I'd say make the thief power front and center here.

Still have to suss out an elegant tiny power that doesn't take on too many separate triggers, though.

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Old March 10th, 2016, 12:10 AM
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Awesome to see Scott Lang. I thought the film was a major letdown though.
I could not disagree with you more. Marvel managed to make Ant-Man cool. He appeared in a Super Bowl ad with the Hulk. I'm not sure what would have made you happy if you are serious.

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Old March 10th, 2016, 12:14 AM
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I could not disagree with you more. Marvel managed to make Ant-Man cool. He appeared in a Super Bowl ad with the Hulk. I'm not sure what would have made you happy if you are serious.
I didn't want to derail the discussion on the write up, but fwiw I'm 100% with Spidey on this one. Super fun movie. I enjoyed it way more than Age of Ultron, for instance. I'm guessing this has something to do with having a specific interpretation and expectations of the character based on a comic reading experience I don't have, though.

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Yeah, Ant-Man was great.
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Ant-Man the character was great. Ant-Man the movie would have been great 10 years ago. Today it was just underwhelming... I guess I wanted something a bit meatier.

He's long overdue for C3G, though!
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Okay, hearing a lot of different voices here. I honestly liked Johnny's idea the best (I get what people are saying about focusing on his thievery, but I don't like the idea of him being so niche and limited), so my present idea is giving him 4 simple powers, similar to someone like X-23 (who he actually seems to have less text than).







The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Age of Ultron set.
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Name -Ant-Man
Secret Identity - Scott Lang


Species - Human
Uniqueness - Unique Hero
Class - Thief
Personality - Tricky
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Small but Mighty

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Old March 10th, 2016, 01:00 PM
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You don't actually give him the ability to move through any figures on his turn there. I'd roll the disengage and pass through figures aspects into the Thief power, then roll the can't be targeted bit into Small But Mighty.

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