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Old November 9th, 2019, 11:43 PM
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Re: The Book of Bloodshot (Design Phase)

Second post updated with a 4 attack per turn cap, and Cyborg as a species. Will put together the checklists tomorrow - if anyone else has input on the conditional Cyborg species (either in MrNobody's draft or something along those lines), please do chime in!
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Re: The Book of Bloodshot (Design Phase)

I'd keep it clean and just call him a Cyborg, rather than dual-species him or do keyword-manipulation.
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Old November 10th, 2019, 10:29 AM
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Re: The Book of Bloodshot (Design Phase)

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I'd keep it clean and just call him a Cyborg, rather than dual-species him or do keyword-manipulation.

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Re: The Book of Bloodshot (Design Phase)

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Re: The Book of Bloodshot (Design Phase)

Looks like the lean is toward just Cyborg, then. I'll stay the course.

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Does the design offer worrisome Order marker movement or efficiency (Commander Rogers, Joker (I), Ozymandias)? - N/A

Does the design offer superior Auto wounding (War Machine, Cosmic Cube, Selene)? - N/A

Does the design cause the prevention of abilities (Blob, Polaris, Meteorite)? - N/A

Does the design move opponent's figures (Graviton, Magneto (II), Vulture)? - N/A

Does the design move friendly figures (Angel, Martian Manhunter (I))? - N/A

Does the design boost other figures (outside of a narrowly defined set) (Captain America, Star-Lord, Sage)? - N/A

Does the design have one or more excellent defensive powers (5th Precinct Beat Cops, Magical Defense, Speedball)? - N/A

Does the design auto destroy or take control of other figures in a way that unbalances the design (Psycho-man, Gorgon, Enchantress)? - N/A

Does the design have any other concerns (Magma creating lava tiles, pre re-eval Crow's invulnerability, pre re-eval Mad Thinker Mind Games and limiting design space for Androids)? - Mostly just being a very efficient ranged multi-attacker, but that's his "one trick" so...

Summary of Any Competitive Concerns/Suggestions for Changes - Keep an eye on his efficiency!
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Name and Identity
Verify character is named in a way that is clear, accurate and feels consistent with the way other characters are named. - What is identity? Is he truly Raymond Garrison? (He does call himself that internally which is as good a barometer as any.)

Uniqueness and Type
Verify that the power text reflects the listed uniqueness and type, that the uniqueness fits the character, and that squad size is listed for squads. -

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If the character's species, class or personality is reused, verify that the character feels thematically consistent with other figures that have that species, class or personality. If they are not reused, verify that there is no pre-existing species, class or personality that would make more sense. -

Size and Height
Verify that the listed size and height are accurate. Standing the mini up next to a stack of tiles, and a few other minis of various sizes, is encouraged. - Will double check with LV once the mod is done.

Super Strength and Flying
Verify that these special powers are present if they make sense, and not if they don't. - Super Strength is debatable, but I think he qualifies.

New Powers - Names
Verify that any new powers are not using power names identical to, or very similar to, pre-existing powers. Verify that any new powers are actually new and not old powers with new names. - All new, and Nanite Healing effectively follows the "pattern" of our Healing powers.

New Powers - Effects
Verify that the effect and timing of all new powers is clear. Verify that any logical immunities, benefits, or weaknesses (whether those be necessary for thematic or mechanical reasons) are implemented: consider whether defensive powers that work against normal attacks should also work against special attacks, whether or not a power has an elemental component that some figures should resist, and whether or not unliving figures (such as Undead and Androids) should be affected. -

Reused Powers
Verify that the design is reusing powers in place of creating new ones, where reused powers could implement the same theme and mechanics with no differences or only trivial differences. Verify that any reused powers have the correct text. - N/A

Power Level
Verify that the character's movement, attack, range, and defense (in conjunction with any special powers that enhance those stats) feel consistent with the capabilities of characters with analogous powers and abilities. Verify that the character falls into a similar point range to characters with comparative powers and abilities. - Between Captain America (250) and Wolverine (280) seems like a good fit. He could probably go down to 4 Defense, if needed, so I'll see how that feels on the battlefield.
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Re: The Book of Bloodshot (VOTE for Initial)

yea

You can pretty safely bet on the height being the same as Drax (I), right?
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Re: The Book of Bloodshot (VOTE for Initial)

Yea
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Re: The Book of Bloodshot (VOTE for Initial)

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Re: The Book of Bloodshot (VOTE for Initial)

Yea


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Re: The Book of Bloodshot (VOTE for Initial)

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Re: The Book of Bloodshot (VOTE for Initial)

Cool! With that we're all set. Running these games later today. Thinking one Star-Lord build, one Captain America build... any other attack boosters you think would be worth testing?
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Re: The Book of Bloodshot (VOTE for Initial)

That Optimus/Bumblebee combo is pretty effective I’ve found. Carry Bloodshot to height with Bee, then blast away at all comers.
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