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Old March 6th, 2019, 09:20 AM
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Re: The Book of Hobgoblin (Design Phase)

Actually, a minor adjustment to that wording edit would keep the blast. Still a bit of a memory effect, but it's not too bad of one.
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After moving and before attacking, you may choose a figure Hobgoblin passed over this turn. All figures who began this player turn adjacent to the chosen figure are also affected by Gas Pumpkin. For the rest of this player turn, all affected figures subtract 1 from their Defense number, and when they use a special power and the 20-sided die is rolled, you may subtract 2 from whatever is rolled.
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Re: The Book of Hobgoblin (Design Phase)

Can we keep the gas mask synergy?

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Re: The Book of Hobgoblin (Design Phase)

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Can we keep the gas mask synergy?
Yea, that's totally cool. I just missed grabbing the one with that included. Though that wording for it seems a little odd and counterintuitive. We should probably just spell out the powers like we did before.
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Re: The Book of Hobgoblin (Design Phase)

Hmm... I do like that "adjacent figures" version but I think at that point we're sort of hedging closer to the "chosen space" issues of clarity - at the start of the turn just doesn't read right to me, particularly since figures can be moved between the start of the turn and the bombing. Something like "currently adjacent" or "adjacent when this special power is used" might clean that up...

...but I think I'll err on the side of simplicity here and go with Ronin's draft, with the player turn in use. I think letting him debuff enemies for his allies is a big part of the design appeal for me.

So I think I'll go into testing with that, see if he feels a bit too un-goblin-y, and move forward based on that feeling.

In the meantime, I went with Pestering Pursuit Special Attack, updated the second post, and here's the checklist thingy:

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Pumpkin Gas also lets the following figures potentially get a bonus:

- Street Thugs
- Killer Penguins
- Hired Guns
- Kingpin

I think the Guns in particular could make for a nasty combination, since that's -1 Defense against up to eight attacks. I think most of the testing is going to have to be with them and the Street Thugs, and I'd love suggestions on what armies to run there.

But I don't think there's any other major competitive concerns, so I'm fine with moving to the Initial if no one has any objections to the above.
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Re: The Book of Hobgoblin (Design Phase)

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Pumpkin Gas also lets the following figures potentially get a bonus:

- Street Thugs
- Killer Penguins
- Hired Guns
- Kingpin

I think the Guns in particular could make for a nasty combination, since that's -1 Defense against up to eight attacks. I think most of the testing is going to have to be with them and the Street Thugs, and I'd love suggestions on what armies to run there.

But I don't think there's any other major competitive concerns, so I'm fine with moving to the Initial if no one has any objections to the above.
He can also provide the bonus for generalist bonders like Ms. Marvel, Zombie, Lil' Groot, and Nebula.
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Re: The Book of Hobgoblin (Design Phase)

Good call - wasn't thinking in that direction. This is why I'm not a pro.
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Re: The Book of Hobgoblin (Design Phase)

Honestly, I think the Hired Guns synergy makes them more of a concern than anything else anyway. Probably worth trying him in a generalist thing or two, but working well with the Hired Guns at all makes me want to see that hit pretty hard in testing.
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Re: The Book of Hobgoblin (Design Phase)

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Honestly, I think the Hired Guns synergy makes them more of a concern than anything else anyway. Probably worth trying him in a generalist thing or two, but working well with the Hired Guns at all makes me want to see that hit pretty hard in testing.
I concur.
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Re: The Book of Hobgoblin (Design Phase)

Yeah. The Guns are already pretty ridiculous.
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Re: The Book of Hobgoblin (Design Phase)

Looks good. Excited about this guy. Pre-yea for initial playtesting!

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Re: The Book of Hobgoblin (Design Phase)

Might be a little bit before I can get to testing - have a vacation at the end of the month, though, so probably then.

But either way, I PROPOSE WE MOVE TO INITIAL PLAYTESTING!
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