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Re: Casters of Valhalla
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Casters of Valhalla: THE Competitive HeroScape Podcast!
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Re: Casters of Valhalla
https://castersofvalhalla.wixsite.co...b-units-part-2
Join Mike, Ken, and Cody as we discuss the second half of the B+ rated units (in accord with Mike's modern power rankings). Also, we coin the term "Scottie Pippen Syndrome", talk about the evolution of GenCon over the years, and announce a very special episode with two mystery guests! Orc's Power Rankings: https://www.heroscapers.com/communit...ad.php?t=54867 Orc's ARV Maps Article: https://www.heroscapers.com/community/blog.php?b=2943 Casters of Valhalla: THE Competitive HeroScape Podcast!
Last edited by OEAO; April 14th, 2020 at 11:53 PM. Reason: Boomer'd the link... and zoomer'd his name. |
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Re: Casters of Valhalla
Since OEAO decided to delete my amazingly convincing argument against TKN, what are people's thoughts on he being in the B+? I think 220 points is way too pricey. He falls fairly easily to bonding melee. I don't ever recall struggling to win against him. OEAO says he goes great with Raelin so that's why he's good. To me that's not an argument why TKN is good. That's an argument why Raelin is good (which is another debate at another time).
Dragon Dice - (the 2nd best game there is) Learn to Play! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h3q6...wujcr8vVf8e21G |
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Re: Casters of Valhalla
@Matthias Maccabeus
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@dok
. He has won multiple Gencons with them - but those are RTW tourneys and I think the TKN+grubs strength is there is a divide between how good they are in the hands of a player experienced with them and those not experienced wit them. You won with and against him them so maybe you would know better though
BTW listened to 1/2 the podcast episode so far, and so far great stuff. I need to play more of the B+ units as it seems like some are underrated or unexplored and therefore good in RTW tournaments. C3V/SoV cards @ 3/page PDF / LeftOn4ya's Customs (including Jurassic World) / Competitive Unit Alters / New? Start Here! Unit Debates REVIVED - #76 Tandros Kreel vs Torin "Today is a good day to die... but the day is not yet over"
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Of course I also had a strong record against the army, but I attribute a lot of that to how tricky the army is to play for those not familiar with it. (Also in 2011 at least three of the four armies I used against it on day 2 were legit A tier armies.) Ken saying "I don't ever recall struggling to win against him" is a bad argument on at least three levels:
Ken's perspective is valuable of course, but it should be seen in that context. |
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In all seriousness, should Raelin factor into how good a unit is in the rankings? I understand why grubs factor in with TKN that makes sense. Does factoring Raelin in make sense? It doesn't to me but I may just be the odd man out here. Dragon Dice - (the 2nd best game there is) Learn to Play! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h3q6...wujcr8vVf8e21G Last edited by Matthias Maccabeus; April 16th, 2020 at 11:59 AM. Reason: I'm getting old. My memory used to be good. |
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Re: Casters of Valhalla
Discussion Ideas
B is the new C for Rankings, the rankings system is way too liberal. There is no proper curve. Have you tried Hexscape? 3D Heroscape Multiplayer Battle program! Looking for a C3V/SOV miniature? Try one of these sites. |
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Spoiler Alert!
It's a fair question; it really comes down to what the rankings are supposed to mean. I've always thought it was "how much value does that figure bring in its best army". With that definition, figures that benefit MORE from Raelin should get a bump. |
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Re: Casters of Valhalla
Have you tried Hexscape? 3D Heroscape Multiplayer Battle program! Looking for a C3V/SOV miniature? Try one of these sites. |
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Dragon Dice - (the 2nd best game there is) Learn to Play! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h3q6...wujcr8vVf8e21G |
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Re: Casters of Valhalla
The argument that something is better with Raelin is tired and old.
Have you tried Hexscape? 3D Heroscape Multiplayer Battle program! Looking for a C3V/SOV miniature? Try one of these sites. |
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Ultimately this is a question for @OrcElfArmyOne since it's his rankings you're discussing. When I do the VC-inclusive rankings, though, this is my approach. |
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