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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion
Gah, I just got this. That's awful.
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Thanks Tickle for the nomination...I look forward to the re-write. C3V Current Broadcast 4/29/2015 C3V Testimonial from " Easily the best quality classic customs I have ever seen" MY MINIATURE COLLECTION -- NEW VALHALLA |
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Thanks the submission, Tickle, I really like this unit and I'd love to see them resubmitted after some tweaking.
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I've found myself musing a bit recently on the differences between custom heroes and custom squads....
It seems that considerably more heroes than squads have been nominated. (Certainly more heroes than squads have been accepted, by a factor of infinity. ) And my feeling is that this just reflects a general tendency among custom designers: people simply design a lot more heroes than squads. It makes sense for many reasons I suppose. You only need a single figure for a hero, and if it's a little on the expensive side.... well, that's okay for a one-time purchase. Whereas squads require assembling multiple figures. This severely limits options, as cost of figures and availability becomes an issue. And sadly, the prejudice against same-sculpt squads just exacerbates this. (Not saying I don't understand the sentiment. When we began customizing, I too lamented fielding multiple squads of a single sculpt. But that was just a passing objection. Once units are on the field and the game has begun, I NEVER even notice whether squad figures sport different poses or not. Sometimes I think I've actually come to prefer same-sculpt squads: the massed effect can be quite striking.) Squads are also harder to balance too, don't you think? Minor imbalances or potential problems become amplified, because multiplied over numerous figures. By extension, this means that good, well-balanced four-man squads are harder to design than three-man squads. (And perhaps three-man are harder than two-, though I'm not convinced of this yet). All understandable. But I do find myself wishing the situation were sometimes reversed. Thinking only of classic 'Scape units, it seems there are many more heroes that never see action in our games than there are squads. The game already seems a bit hero-heavy in options, at least in our book. Combine this with the external factors that encourage custom designers to tilt towards heroes over squads, and.... well, you get the point. I feel that more squads might open up the game more in relative terms than more heroes will. Though of course, now that I think about it, new heroes that complement and expand already-extant squads do a lot to open up the game too..... Anyway, just curious what the SoV judges think about all this. Knowing that squads are harder to balance, are you tempted to alter standards slightly when judging them? Would you like to see squads getting more love, or is our slight hero-bent suiting the bill just fine? What do you folks imagine the future of customs will be? Last edited by Typhon2222; September 13th, 2011 at 11:36 PM. |
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Skeleton Archers by Sertorius and Typhon2222 have received 6 YES votes to review (1Mmirg, Elginb, Killometer, Lamaclown, nyys, ZBeeblebrox) and move on in the process.
@tcgkln-I think that you have some great ideas with the 77th, they just weren't assembled quite right. I'd love to see them come back in another form (I'll give you a little more feedback in your custom thread in a bit ). @Typhon-I'm not specifically worried about the balance between squads and heroes in the SoV now (although we are a bit biased so far, at 100% heroes ). Someday that may become an issue (I hope it doesn't), but now I'm just taking all our submissions on a one-by-one basis, and judging them as they stand. |
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As far as the same-sculpt squad thing, I have scoured the interwebs looking for possible pre-painted figures that could be used to make up classic squads with different poses, etc. The cream of the DnD Minis crop has already been used to this purpose by HS itself. Just for our Ibixian squad alone, I probably spent 10+ hours hunting for different goat-man figures that I thought would look good. That's the real issue -- I can find other goat-men, and even maybe some (relatively) cheap ones, but when you put them next to each other they just don't seem to belong. They would require repainting, re-basing, or other onerous edits which defeats the whole purpose of the easy-export idea in the first place.
I thought about using the various skeleton units available from the Reapers line as a single squad (with a swordsman, spearman, and archer), but that seems just as strange as a single-sculpt squad. The answer is for somebody to found a sculpting start-up that can make relatively small batches of unpainted miniatures and make it profitable. Good luck. Oh, I guess another person will have to figure out a way to mass-paint miniatures and make that profitable, also. Hrm.. |
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Only slightly related to your questions, Typhon, but something I would love to see more of here is people nominating other people's customs.
This is not to say that I have a problem with people nominating their own units (I don't), but I'm sure that some HSers have come across a custom or two that they think is really fantastic and I'd be thrilled to see them shared here. |
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That was something I was literally JUST thinking about. If I had the ability to playtest at this time, I'd probably try out some of Lamaclown's customs and nominate one or two that I thought were fun.
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Eh. Lamaclown's a goof.
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