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Main event armies
I like that they're making folks think outside the box. Day 2 has a 50% chance of 75 more points, a 33% chance of 100 more points, and a 17% chance of 140 more points.
Every strong option that immediately jumps to mind involves playing day 1 very light so that you have lots of day 2 options. Here's one that involves a little less finagling: 80 Raelin RotV 80 Deathreavers x2 180 Major Q9 150 10th Regiment x2 490, 19 hexes So, only 10 points light. If the skull hits, add Isamu and another squad of 10th, for 575/24. If the shield hits, add Airborne Elite for 600/23. If the symbol hits, add Q10 (Or Cyprien?) for 640/21. |
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I posted this over in the 500 pt thread, but it's probably better here.
Even though I won't make it there this year, I really like the reinforcements idea. At first glance, this is probably what I would play if I wanted to win: Q9 - 180 Raelin - 260 Laglor - 370 Krav - 470 Dumutef - 495 Reinforced by: 575 - Deathreavers x2 600 - Deathreavers x2, Marcu 640 - Deathreavers x3, Marcu, or possibly Nakitas / Skahen + Marcu It would also be interesting to leave the 30 points completely off the table to give yourself more options for Day 2. If I left the Dumutef off of the above army, I could reinforce with Deathreavers x2 + Marcu/Dumutef at 575, Deathreavers x2 + Marro Warriors at 600, and Deathreavers x3 + Marro Warriors at 640. Like battle reports? Click Tourney Reports (New 10/21/2012 - Cutters / Brutes!) KC's Maps Click KC's Customs Scaper of the Week #57 |
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I guess Knights are an easy one to be flexible with.
210 Knights of Weston x3 105 Sir Gilbert 185 Nilfheim 500, 15 hexes At 575, add still more knights for 570/19. At 600, add Hawthorne and Isamu for 600/16. (ETA: or KMA, duh) At 640, add Alistair and Eldgrim for 640/16, or two squads of knights for 640/23, or two squads of 4th mass (valiant once Nilfheim goes down). ETA: working backwards from that last iteration of the 640 leads me to some good mixed KoW/4th approaches, although you have to play light on day 1: 210 Knights of Weston x3 105 Sir Gilbert 140 4th Mass x2 455, 21 hexes At 575, add Alistair (or Thorgrim+Eldgrim) for 565/22(23) At 600, add Alistair+Eldgrim for 595/23 At 640, add Nilfheim for 640/23, and save the 4th for after Nilfheim goes down. Last edited by dok; July 17th, 2009 at 02:14 PM. |
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Yep, and I think the KMA version won a recent 600-point event. That looks like the best 600 point option.
I must admit, I'm quite enamored with the 640 point version where the 4th stay back until Nilfheim gets killed. It seems very workable; only two places for your OMs at any given time. |
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80 Arrow Gruts x2
50 Swog Rider x2 120 Krug 80 Raelin RotV 10 Isamu 150 Cyprien Esenwein 490, 15 hexes At 575, add Sonya Esenwein and another squad of AGs for 575/19. At 600, add Sonya Esenwein, another squad of AGs, and another Swog, for 600/21. At 640, add Sonya Esenwein, two more squads of AGs, and another Swog, for 640/24. |
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Since we won't know for awhile what Wave 9 will bring, I'm not losing any sleep over this yet. Most of the armies that I'll be considering will probably stick close to the point/hex limit. Why plan for day 2 too heavily before you're there?
I'm leaning towards playing a 3x rat army that sits at 495,* so that if I go to day 2 I can play Raelin no matter what, but it might be better just to play Raelin. *Either: 3x Rats 3x Stingers Nilfheim Isamu (24 hexes) or: 3x Stingers 3x Deathreavers Cyprien Sonya (23 hexes) I posted my main event army choices last year and didn't make it to day 2, but I don't think it's because of that. I also posted the top 2 armies and one of the armies that ended up beating me, but they would have come up with them on their own. The only potential choice that I didn't share on the forums at the time was Red Wings of Death- 3x Minions/Zelrig. It was a somewhat risky army that I thought had a lot of potential. Codeman played it and came just as close to making day 2 as I did with Vanilla Ice. (I think we were 18th and 19th). The two main contributors to this thread won't be going. Will lonewolf come in too to show us all the armies that he'd take? Last edited by Jexik; April 15th, 2009 at 11:45 AM. |
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Knights x 4 - 280
Gilbert - 385 Krav - 485 Day 2 - 90 points - Knights x 1 or Hawthorne or Finn + Isamu 115 points - Alastair 155 points - Finn + Knights x 1 (sit a knight) Dragon Dice - (the 2nd best game there is) Learn to Play! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h3q6...wujcr8vVf8e21G |
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Gilbert 105 3xKoW 210 2x4th 140 Eldgrim 30 485 / 22 Day 2 @ 575 = add Finn (565 / 23) Day 2 @ 600 = add Alastair (595 / 23) Day 2 @ 640 = Sir Dupuis (635 / 24) |
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I like both of those armies a lot. The biggest criticism I can give is that you seem to be playing for the skull. That's the most likely outcome but it's still only 50/50. At 575 with Raelin, you're great. But if the shield hits, you're left deciding whether you'd rather dump a(nother) rat for Marcu, and at 640, all you can do is toss in Shotgun Sullivan and hope for the best. That's what I like about the three two* armies I came up with; they all spool out to decent options at each point level. Both my Knights/Nilf and Arrow Grut/Cyprien versions seem right up your alley. * in retrospect, the army I led off the thread with, while it may fit point-wise, is sort of forced. It's kind of an "A- junk" army. But Knights/Krav/4thx2 all seem like great upgrades for the Knight/Nilf army, and the flexibility of adding Swogs or Arrow Gruts allows the other army to scale up nicely as well. Last edited by dok; April 15th, 2009 at 12:19 PM. |
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The hope was that the reinforcemnts would shake things up and cause some interesting builds.
The concern was that players might gravitate to a certain reinforcment scheme, like running 10 pts light on Day 1 then going: plus Raelin at 575, plus Krav or AE at 600, or plus Q10 at 640. So far, the army ideas and reinforcment schemes seem varied enough. The tron build seems to take the biggest hit with this format. Maybe I am just not thinking it through... |
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