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Re: The Book of Black Bolt - Initial Playtesting
Personally, I'd prefer something more like Thor's power (d20 roll to do multiple points of damage) but at least this version forces you to lose a bunch of figures before killing all the low life units.
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Re: The Book of Black Bolt - Initial Playtesting
A D20 roll with +1 per wound marker on black bolt to sell the last hope theme perhaps.
Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those. |
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Re: The Book of Black Bolt - Initial Playtesting
I don't like the d20 idea at all. Leaves it open to d20 manipulators and now what is to stop you from using in on R1, T1?
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Re: The Book of Black Bolt - Initial Playtesting
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The d20 roll does open the door for d20 manipulators, but since the power requires Black Bolt and a few other Inhumans (all fairly high-cost figures, bar Lockjaw), it wouldn't strike me as too concerning. It's not like it'd be easy to throw Batman and a bunch of JL Marker figures into an Inhumans build. The big difference between piecemeal unblockable damage and the d20 lump sum of damage is that rolling a bunch of unblockable dice is much more punishing for Commons/Squads. 1 Life figures only care about whether they took damage or not, and rolling several unblockables gives them a very small chance to make it through unscathed. |
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Re: The Book of Black Bolt - Initial Playtesting
I like how the unblockables bypasses some defensive powers (particularly anti-D20 powers), since Black Bolt's voice is supposed to be super powerful. And if it's balanceable, Black Bolt being good against squads seem pretty thematic; him getting angry and leveling an entire army has happened before.
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Re: The Book of Black Bolt - Initial Playtesting
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I think I was going to try him in the 360-400 points range to start. He really just needs tested in Inhuman heavy builds, obviously; probably have to go with pretty big armies.
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Re: The Book of Black Bolt - Initial Playtesting
Alright, cool. I should have some results up for you soon.
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Re: The Book of Black Bolt - Initial Playtesting
C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Black Bolt Army Test Map: Custom Units: Black Bolt @365, Medusa, Karnak, Lockjaw (1075) vs Ms. Marvel, Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), Doctor Doom (C3G) (1075)
Spoiler Alert!
___________________________________________________________ Army Test Map: Custom Units: Black Bolt @370, Medusa, Karnak, Gorgon (1200) vs Nightwing, Raven, Starfire, Superboy (Kon-El), Red Robin, Cyborg (1200)
Spoiler Alert!
___________________________________________________________ Army Test Map: Custom Units: Black Bolt @390, Medusa, Karnak, Lockjaw (1100) vs Mister Fantastic, Human Torch (Johnny), Invisible Woman, The Thing, Ragdoll (1100)
Spoiler Alert!
THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Floated the points up and down a bit here, and two of these matches turned out very close. I think 380 would probably be a safe place to start, but I could run a couple more games if you want to be on firmer ground before going into public testing. GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Feels very Black Bolt-y. I didn't find myself leaping to A Whispered Word, but some of that was down to match-ups (and it's not unthematic for him to favor a normal attack anyway). He has an interesting dynamic with Medusa - she's a slightly softer target and taking her down is the quickest way to shut down Inhuman bonding, but Black Bolt is such a big gun that he can still draw fire away from her. |
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Re: The Book of Black Bolt - Initial Playtesting
Thanks Ronin!
Looking pretty set to me. I like seeing that his voice powers got used but only minimally, that's pretty themey. I think we could go ahead and send him forward at 380. C3G: Taking Superheroes to a Whole New Level! C3V: The Legacy of Classic 'Scape! Viegon & Family's Classic Customs, Maps, and Battlefield Videos. Enjoy App Games? Try A Day in the Life of Atlas! |
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Re: The Book of Black Bolt - Initial Playtesting
Yeah, I felt like the voice powers are in the right place. Voice of Destruction is very likely to be used if he outlives his team. I ended up thinking of Whispered Word mainly as a way to get some offense out of him, but still keep him adjacent to Medusa, when he didn't want to leave her side for a normal attack.
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Re: The Book of Black Bolt - Initial Playtesting
That was my hope, so I'm glad it played that way.
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