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Old August 20th, 2019, 01:10 PM
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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Leyline Phantoms) - Design

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When a [Spooky Alien] is targeted for a normal attack from a non-adjacent attacking figure, that [Spooky Alien] may immediately move using the Shift special power.
Multiple problems with this. First it needs to be limited to once a turn, or else they can keep on doing if targeted multiple times. Actually, why would anyone target a figure they are guaranteed not to be able to attack - so this wording would in essence make you not be targeted but also not able to use the SHIFT power, like Thorian. The only circumstance it would trigger is if the power was limited to once a turn and a ranged figure is using 2 less then maximum range then you would target the Spooky Alien, Blink would trigger, then the figure would be retargeted (hopefully with height), but that is super-circumstantial. Maybe add a "after rolling Defense if at least one Blank is rolled..." or a D20 roll like Spider-Man/Venom's Spidey Sense:
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If a [Spooky Alien] is attacked by an opponent's figure and at least 1 skull is rolled, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-10, roll defense dice normally. If you roll an 11-20, [Spooky Alien] takes no damage and may immediately move using his SHIFT Special Power.
I'm not sure I quite understand you here. I do agree it should be limited (possibly to once per phantom per turn) but I don't know if I agree that it would be rarely used. As a melee, you're still going to want to move them towards a target, even if their defensive/reactive Blink can't truly move them behind cover or on height.
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Old August 20th, 2019, 01:12 PM
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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Leyline Phantoms) - Design

Adding a D20 roll makes them even more similar to the Ninjas. My hope is that the guaranteed teleport that doesn't always get them out of trouble will be enough to set them apart. It still has some uses, such as letting them teleport closer or into engagement to avoid attack bonuses, grab height if it's available, teleport behind cover, or get out of range to avoid being targeted again. It's less of a catch-all than Disappearing Ninja or Vanish, but that's intentional.

I could see pairing this version of Blink/Shift with 4 defense as opposed to 3 to beef them up a little bit, given that without smart positioning or against certain situations Blink won't defend them at all.
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Old August 20th, 2019, 01:28 PM
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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Leyline Phantoms) - Design

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Adding a D20 roll makes them even more similar to the Ninjas. My hope is that the guaranteed teleport that doesn't always get them out of trouble will be enough to set them apart. It still has some uses, such as letting them teleport closer or into engagement to avoid attack bonuses, grab height if it's available, teleport behind cover, or get out of range to avoid being targeted again. It's less of a catch-all than Disappearing Ninja or Vanish, but that's intentional.
I was personally a bit partial to the earlier version that let them move adjacent to the figure before they get attacked. I think that's offered more of a departure from the ninjas. In any case, the fact that they're still taking an attack they have to defend against would make me not want to include a dice roll as well.

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Old August 20th, 2019, 01:51 PM
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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Leyline Phantoms) - Design

I'm also partial to the previous suggestion of letting them teleport directly adjacent, but I'm content with testing this version of Blink out first. If they do play too similarly to the Ninjas of the Northern Wind, then I think we'll definitely need to make changes to differentiate them further.
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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Leyline Phantoms) - Design

Thirded, on the version that let them teleport adjacent - but I think testing both is worth doing. Obviosuly, the "may use Blink" is less powerful, if we need that.
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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Leyline Phantoms) - Design

So it sounds like the OP is the leading design at the moment, including 4 Defense?

Let's vote on moving forward to Editing, then. Yea if the OP is good, nay if we want to change Phase Shift or lower Defense (edit: or, you know, pick a name, class, etc...).


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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Leyline Phantoms) - Design

is my vote. If moving adjacent is too much we can go back down to “may use blink”
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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Leyline Phantoms) - Design

NAY for now. We still don't have a name for this design yet (Velnesh Assassins is my personal pick with a matching race, but I can settle for anything), and I think that the idea of calling the first power "Shift" and the reactionary teleport "Blink" works better than our current Blink and Phase Shift as the power names. Both are easy fixes, but I think we should address them now rather than later.
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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Leyline Phantoms) - Design

How about something that makes them sound like expirimental things?

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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Leyline Phantoms) - Design

Hmm, some kind of a scientific experiment name could be interesting and distinct. Something like Subject V12 is mysterious but implies a lot about their background in conjunction with the Experiments class.
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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Leyline Phantoms) - Design

Subject xxx sounds really good.

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Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Leyline Phantoms) - Design

My personal view of them was as some form of naturally-occuring apex predator that hunts using its abilities - perhaps evolved to an environment or prey that itself phases realities. Not feral, intelligent enough to understand commands and their goals.
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