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Old June 14th, 2021, 12:56 AM
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Re: C3G Alpha Flight Workshop

Yeah I was more getting all my ideas for the design out there. Easiest way to save space would be to drop Tanaraq or drastically shorten it, as well as maybe dropping the part where she gives into the animal influence at the end of that power.
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Re: C3G Alpha Flight Workshop

Anyone who's more familiar with her character feel free to chime in on what's probably most important to keep. Tornado may be on to something on having the Tanaraq form being a separate card.
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Re: C3G Alpha Flight Workshop

OK, as the AF guy, I guess, I made an executive decision.
Here is where ZJ was at.
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Re: C3G Alpha Flight Workshop

Okay, here's a second rendition. Still probably too long, but it's close.
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NAME = SNOWBIRD
SECRET IDENTITY = NARYA

SPECIES = INUA
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = OPERATIVE
PERSONALITY = COLD

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 230?


ARCTIC ANIMAL TRANSFORMATION
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, if there is no Animal Marker on this card, you may place one of your white Animal Markers on this card. While the appropriate Animal Marker is on this card, you may use only one other special power on this card and Slippery Ice and Heavy Snow only count as 1 space when moving. At the end of the round, if there is an Animal Marker on this card, you must roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 7 or higher, remove the Animal Marker from this card. If there are no Animal Markers on this card, Snowbird gains the Super Strength and Flying special powers and cannot use any other special powers on this card.

POLAR BEAR POWER
Snowbird may add 2 to her Attack number, may attack any or all figures adjacent to her, and does not have to stop her movement when entering water spaces.

SNOWY OWL POWER
Snowbird cannot be targeted by non-adjacent attacks and has the Flying special power. After using the Flying special power this turn, she may add an automatic skull to her normal attack.

ARCTIC FOX POWER
Snowbird may add 2 to her Move number, can move through all figures, and is never attacked when leaving an engagement.
I realized if her transformation is optional, unlike Vixen, she needs to say she can't use the other powers. I also borrowed the die roll.

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Re: C3G Alpha Flight Workshop

Can she only transform while on snow?
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Re: C3G Alpha Flight Workshop

Thinking of what else could be cut. I might drop the ice/snow req for her to shapechanging. It was mostly for theme (apparently her powers didn't work unless she was in Canada), but she's very map dependent with it and I think the newer comics dropped the idea as well.
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Re: C3G Alpha Flight Workshop

Whoa, jinx!
Yeah it's very limiting, I'll drop it. That was what kept her from being targeted easily though, in the clear sight bit, I'll have to mess with that.
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Re: C3G Alpha Flight Workshop

Is she not good at transforming in the comics?
The mechanics imply she gets stuck in a form sometimes.
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Re: C3G Alpha Flight Workshop

From Wikipedia
"However, Snowbird's personality becomes overlaid with the character traits and instinctual patterns of whatever animal's form she is using at the time. Furthermore, the greater the amount of time she spends as a certain animal, the stronger the impression of that animal's psyche on her personality. If she remains in one form for an extended period of time, she risks having her personality fixed as that of the animal, and therefore of never transforming back. Also, transforming from one animal to another without first changing into her base form causes her great strain. However, both of these limitations have been reduced or removed following her resurrection: she has since been shown to talk in animal form, and she transformed from a mountain lion to Wendigo with no strain at all."
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Re: C3G Alpha Flight Workshop

So the question is how much do we care about representing these weaknesses, how workable they are, and if the original incarnation is the one we're focusing on.
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Re: C3G Alpha Flight Workshop

"and Snowbird cannot be targeted by non-adjacent attacks that require clear sight on a Slippery Ice or Heavy Snow space." I like this one, but I think I'm going to have to drop it.
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Re: C3G Alpha Flight Workshop

The mechanics are pretty clunky.
I just fear she will not be that fun to play because switching forms is not guaranteed.
She will just stay in whatever is determined to be her best form.
Not sure though. Worth testing out for fun to see how it feels.
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