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Old May 15th, 2020, 11:00 AM
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Re: The Book of Prometheus ~ Public Testing

I haven't played him, but his results look good at 500 points and I'm not seeing why it matters too much that he only costs 400 points personally. My thoughts are point cost do not always equal power level and the design looks fun, so I don't see the need to nerf him.
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Re: The Book of Prometheus ~ Public Testing

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I haven't played him, but his results look good at 500 points and I'm not seeing why it matters too much that he only costs 400 points personally. My thoughts are point cost do not always equal power level and the design looks fun, so I don't see the need to nerf him.
Heís fun, and Iíd rather him stay fun at 500 than potentially become less fun at 400.
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Old May 15th, 2020, 12:50 PM
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Re: The Book of Prometheus ~ Public Testing

I like him at 500. A

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Re: The Book of Prometheus ~ Public Testing

I don't think we need to tweak him down all the way to 400, but 500 does feel unthematically high, and I don't think dropping his Life or Defense a point to get him closer to 450 would do anything to impact his playability. So I'd go B.
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Re: The Book of Prometheus ~ Public Testing

I don't know the story, so maybe it makes more sense to others who do, but the 6 life on a human still stands out as well above normal. 4 life is our standard for adult humans, 5 life for those we want to have a little more staying power, then 6 is rarer territory for non-enhanced humans. Not saying we can't our shouldn't do that, just be sure his story justifies it in some way. If it doesn't then 5 life and where ever the points fall would be my suggestion on how to move forward, if it does leave him at 6 life and test him one more time at 500 points. Testers seem to like where he's at now in terms of powers and mechanics.
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Re: The Book of Prometheus ~ Public Testing

Hmm, yeah, I do see the argument that 6 Life is hard to thematically justify here. I was thinking he was at least a Metahuman for some reason.

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Re: The Book of Prometheus ~ Public Testing

I had 6 life for 2 reasons. He has the ability to download any survival skills at any time he needs, plus normal combat effectiveness to know how to protect himself. His suit basically programs him into being in peak conditions when he woke up from his vegetative state after Batman outsmarted him, he got ahold of the helmet and it instantly made him better. He usually weasels his way out of capture when his plans go awry, so he hasnít often actually been beaten in a fight.

And for gameplay reasons. He really doesnít have much in the way of defensive abilities other than stats, so I figured if life was too low he would be a fun 4-500 point guy.

Obviously Iím fine dropping it, it was my suggestion! But those were my reasons at the time
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Old May 15th, 2020, 06:06 PM
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Re: The Book of Prometheus ~ Public Testing

Most of those things to me, other than peak physical conditions, are about defense number, not life number. And he definitely can use his download markers for auto shields, which is a significant defensive ability he has.

I think I've moved to supporting a drop to 5 Life and keeping all else the same and seeing where his points fall, just on theme. I have no problem with the 500 points, but 6 Life does seem too high for a peak-level Human.

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Re: The Book of Prometheus ~ Public Testing

Can't speak to thematics as I don't know him but I'd probably start with lowering life and just see where he falls.

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Re: The Book of Prometheus ~ Public Testing

Cool, I think most would be on board with that. Iím just going to call it at 5 life and no other changes and send him out
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Re: The Book of Prometheus ~ Public Testing

Well, he played wrong and gave Prometheus boosts from Cap and Star Lord. But aside from that the tests look pretty balanced. Maybe he's coming in a bit weak now with the life drop and points raise, if he seems good with the boosts. But even if a bit weak compared to Bats, I'll chalk that up to Bats having more experience than him. So we'll be right about the right area here.

Obviously want one more proper test though.

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NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: (Prometheus)

Army Test
Map: Country Road
Units: Prometheus(450) Starlord(250) Mantis(200) Dazzler(100) (1000) VS Flash-Barry Allen(250) Superman II(450) Wonder Woman I(300) (1000)
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Army Test
Map: Country Road
Units: Prometheus(450) Captain America(240) Bucky(60) Uncle Sam(240) (990) VS Yellow Lantern Sinestro(330) Yellow Lantern Arkillo(310) Sinestro Corps Soldier x3(330)(970)
Spoiler Alert!


THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: A really enjoyable character in my opinion. Extremely useful against characters who may have abilities that add to defense dice or ability to cancel taking wounds. Draftability I was unsure of at first but pairing him up with characters that would increase his own damage and attack dice seemed beneficial and turned him into an aggressive character on the field, especially against foes who rely on abilities enhancing defense. I am no expert in the matter but I feel perhaps an increase in cost with these abilities at least. I never ended up using all his markers before the match ended. As previously stated super fun though and looking forward to seeing his release in the future where I would use him quite frequently.
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