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Old May 18th, 2020, 09:55 PM
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Re: The Book of Bunker - Vote for Initial

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I will note that you have to decide to use the marker before defending, so the exact scenario Zak mentioned isn't a concern.
I also noticed that as well.

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He did come across as a more aggressive type in combat, which in a way contradicts his name in a way haha I would think Bunker means defensive.
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Re: The Book of Bunker - Waiting for Initial

Getting a start here! I'll update throughout the week when I finish. Fun so far!

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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Bunker


Army Test
Summary: Bunker was the main offensive force. He dealt nearly all the damage, and the Wrecking Crew picked off the others one by one. Starfire died way too early, she probably could have made this a win if she hadn’t. Bunker is fun, I love his fists and platformer. Didn’t get great use out of his markers though.
Map: Custom
Units: Bunker (160), Nightwing, Starfire, Speedy (Roy), Wondergirl (Donna)

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Wrecking Crew




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Army Test
Summary: This was quick and brutal. The FF couldn’t roll any defense, even with Sue boosting them. Reed was killed in round 2, I believe he rolled a single shield in 3 defense rolls. Bunker himself is great, he helps others with mobility, and when he gets close he’s quite a beast in combat. I’m recommending a points boost at this point, and I’ll test in a different build so Nightwing and Starfire aren’t quite as oppressive.
Map: Custom
Units: Bunker, Nightwing, Raven, Starfire, Wonder Girl (Cassie)

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Fantastic Four


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Army Test
Summary: This looked bad for TMNT right from the start, but eventually they caught up and steamrolled! Bunker was extremely useful with his platformer. His shield wasn’t great, but his value is definitely there.
Map: Custom
Units: Bunker (180), Aqualad (Kaldur), Tempest, Wonder Girl (700)

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TMNT (700)




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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: [COLOR="Red"].He’s very draftable. If you have non-flying Titans, he’s basically invaluable on maps with many hills. Even though his last game was a blow out, I think that was a lot of luck and he’s worth 180. Maybe 170 based on further testing. [COLOR]

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT:
Platformer is the highlight. His fists are a great offensive tool, especially from height, which he gains easily. The constructs were a bit lackluster. The missile was only used once each game, and that’s while both armies were colliding. Felt a bit pointless. The shield is obviously a bit more useful. If this were my LD, I might scrap the missile completely (Unless very thematic to the character!). If he’s coming in a bit strong with further testing, we could tie his fists to the Constructs power, and give him 2-3 markers that he can use on either Brick Fists or Wall. But it’s not my LD, and he DOES play good as is.


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Old May 18th, 2020, 10:31 PM
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Re: The Book of Bunker - Waiting for Initial

Part of me wishes he had one more wall marker for team defense, as he only ever used it on himself. The missile was used a single time. He really just wants to get in your face, making the missile pointless after a single shot or two if he's out of range. I'm almost thinking he'd be more fun just cutting the missile and having 2 wall markers, but I want to keep it if it's iconic.

He's fun though! A bit offensive force for the Titans. The Wrecking Crew was focused on the other Titans (Namely Nightwing as usual) so he survived long enough to deal some damage.
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Part of me wishes he had one more wall marker for team defense, as he only ever used it on himself. The missile was used a single time. He really just wants to get in your face, making the missile pointless after a single shot or two if he's out of range. I'm almost thinking he'd be more fun just cutting the missile and having 2 wall markers, but I want to keep it if it's iconic.

He's fun though! A bit offensive force for the Titans. The Wrecking Crew was focused on the other Titans (Namely Nightwing as usual) so he survived long enough to deal some damage.
Could always just make them 2 brick markers and he can use them for either effect? But that kind of gets us back to the more support than attack role

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Re: The Book of Bunker - Waiting for Initial

Play him with Superboy and Raven before deciding you want that.

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Play him with Superboy and Raven before deciding you want that.
Oh yeah Iím not making changes yet. Just some errant thoughts.
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Re: The Book of Bunker - Waiting for Initial

One more game in. He's fun! I'll probably run the next one at 170-180 though, he's just really useful. Nightwing and friends are really powerful, so I think I'll run an Aqualad army at a smaller point cost to get a better feel for him individually.


Hopefully will finish tonight, but no guarantees. Been a rough week.
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Re: The Book of Bunker - Waiting for Initial

I think 180 is the ceiling for how much we wanted him to cost, so if he's feeling too strong at that cost we may need to tweak something here but sounds like that may be where he falls so we'll be fine.
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Re: The Book of Bunker - Waiting for Initial

Yeah I think outside of the core build heíll be good. Heís just not getting shot at because there are bigger targets.
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Re: The Book of Bunker - Waiting for Initial

It has come to my attention that this needs an updated for clarity, so here is a preliminary edit. I'll go more in depth when this hits Final Editing.
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When counting spaces for athe normal movement of a figure you control, if that figure is moving onto a space within 3 spaces of Bunker, elevation changes of up to 3 levels count as 1 space. FBunker and all figures you control within 3 spaces of Bunker may ignore the effects of all terrain.
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When counting spaces for the normal movement of a figure you control, if that figure is moving onto a space within 3 spaces of Bunker, elevation changes of up to 3 levels count as 1 space. Bunker and all figures you control within 3 spaces of Bunker may ignore the effects of all terrain.
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Re: The Book of Bunker - Waiting for Initial

Perfect

Thatís how I was playing it before I realized the wording issue, so itís not a problem there.
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