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Re: The Book of Joker (IV) (Design)

One of my issues I didnít communicate well (Iím not that great at communication in general), is that the power didnít represent JOKER doing thing. It very clearly was Carnage doing something with his senses, not Joker. And I didnít see how Joker helped Carnage.

What Bats has would perfectly help me out here

My thoughts on Fall Guy arenít really issues, Iím fine with it. I just think itís more evocative and colorful if itís a bomb. Joker likes bombs
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Re: The Book of Joker (IV) (Design)

What if it could be a bomb once per game, but most of the time it's just nowt but a jape?


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Re: The Book of Joker (IV) (Design)

japes IS da bomb.

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Re: The Book of Joker (IV) (Design)

I kind of like that approach of derailing your opponents d20 rolls. Then you don't have to feel like you need to draft Joker with d20 rollers, just need to see one on the opponents team.
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Re: The Book of Joker (IV) (Design)

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I kind of like that approach of derailing your opponents d20 rolls. Then you don't have to feel like you need to draft Joker with d20 rollers, just need to see one on the opponents team.
Itís a bit more counter draft than I usually prefer, but most armies have a d20 roll, and it hits the theme better.
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Re: The Book of Joker (IV) (Design)

I like the approach of letting you do both. You don't have to take him with or against D20 rollers - either or both'll do - and it allows Joker to mess with friend and foe, which, let's be honest, he absolutely would.


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Re: The Book of Joker (IV) (Design)

Don't really like that change, honestly. Not really novel or interesting for army building and you have zero control over what should be a marquee power.
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Don't really like that change, honestly. Not really novel or interesting for army building and you have zero control over what should be a marquee power.


If you are reading it as you having zero control, I either mistyped or you misread. You could still use it for your D20 powers, just not ones that trigger on your turn.

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Re: The Book of Joker (IV) (Design)

I'm totally cool with letting it work on opponents' rolls if the sabotage element helps people out. I wouldn't introduce "during another player's turn" as a hard requirement, though.

I think that would him pretty hard toward reactive d20 powers (Carnage and co) as his only way to leverage the power. I want those powers on the table for the interaction so that his own powers interlock smoothly, but I also want him to be able to trigger off in-turn powers for the sake of guys like Bizarro and Black Manta and Black Adam. (I know, I'm greedy)
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Yeah, I'm also happy with the current draft. I would probably slide Thief into his class lineup, which brings in some other Gotham types without roping in the whole Criminal faction.

Fall Guy in particular I like as-is - I don't think it SHOULD wound, because so many Joker pranks are harmless on the face. Like, you find a birthday cake with a head in it, you find out the dude you just killed was actually the mayor in a Joker mask, the bomb was just a balloon filled with confetti... but meanwhile Joker is using the distraction to set up his REAL plan. Ending a turn is fun, fairly impactful, and works great narratively - imagine the slow zoom in on GCPD officers looking at each other confused.


For the first power... like, could we name is "JOKER GIVES EVERYONE JOY BUZZERS" or "JOKER THROWS A BOMB WHENEVER SOMETHING UNEXPECTED HAPPENS" or "THE BATTLEFIELD IS WHITTLED WITH WHOOPEE CUSHIONS THAT JOKER SETS OFF AT INTERVALS ONLY HE UNDERSTANDS" - sure! But I don't mind going with a fun mechanic that pushes Joker to work with interesting allies that I can make mean whatever I want.

Don't think of it as the card telling a story, think of it as the card providing a canvas that lets you tell your own story.
I was very strongly in LPs side until I read this...and now I can see the shimmer of the theme. It doesn't come out in the text of the card but this descriptions here I can see.

I do still agree with LP on the whole carnage thing but also think dropping Psychopaths here eliminates that.

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What if it could be a bomb once per game, but most of the time it's just nowt but a jape?
Someone finally gets my name...thank you. No one ever knows what a japes is and I purposely don't use a capital J because it's not a name...

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What if it could be a bomb once per game, but most of the time it's just nowt but a jape?
Someone finally gets my name...thank you. No one ever knows what a japes is and I purposely don't use a capital J because it's not a name...
If it helps, even without knowing the definition, I've always considered you a series of practical jokes.

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