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Army Test 1
Map: Castle Dracula (Custom Map)
Units: Team 1 (1,000): Void, Sentry
Team 2 (1,000): JLA Trinity w/ da markers
Pre-game thoughts: Just getting a measurement of how Sentry/Void handle against the Trinity, since that’s some decently heavy hitters.
Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!
Round 1: T1 wins initiative
-Sentry warps reality to put 2 wounds on Wonder Woman
Round 2: T1 wins initiative
-Sentry inflicts a wound on Supes
-Sentry warps reality to put 2 wounds on Wonder Woman
-Sentry inflicts a wound on Wonder Woman and a wound on Superman
-Superman inflicts 2 wounds on Sentry
Round 3: T2 wins initiative
-Superman inflicts a wound on Sentry
-Sentry is taken over by Void
-Superman inflicts a wound on Void
-Void takes out Wonder Woman
-Superman inflicts 2 wounds on Void
Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-Superman inflicts a wound on Void
-Sentry returns, but Void places a Instability Marker on his card
-Superman inflicts 4 wounds on Sentry
-Sentry warps reality to heal himself
Round 5: T1 wins initiative
-Sentry is taken over by Void
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Superman
-Void inflicts a wound on Superman
-Superman inflicts 3 wounds on Void
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Superman
-Superman inflicts a wound on Void
Round 6: T1 wins initiative
-Void takes out Superman
-Batman inflicts 2 wounds on Void
-Void inflicts 2 wounds on Batman
-Sentry returns, but Void places 3 Instability Markers on his card
-Sentry inflicts a wound on Batman
-Sentry reality warps Batman to death
Special power usages:
Normal attack: 6 wounds inflicted (1 on Wonder Woman, 3 on Superman, 2 on Batman)
Infini-Tendrils: 2 wounds inflicted (2 on Superman)
Seeping: R4: 1 Instability Marker placed, R6: 3 Instability Markers placed
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Sentry (5/8 wounds), Void (10/12 wounds)
NOTE: When Sentry switches at the beginning of his turn, should Void still get to go? I played it as a no here, but I could see it either way.
Post-game thoughts: This one was closer than it seemed it would be in the first few rounds, but ultimately Sentry was just putting out way too much firepower.
Just a personal note, but Sentry currently feels way stronger than Void. Void was rolling bad for Infini-Tendrils, but that and his attack are really all he has, while Sentry has a stronger attack, explosion punches, and reality warps in his toolkit.
Also, I feel like they should be done for when Void is destroyed. That makes keeping him exposed a weakness while also letting him be a total wrecker of s***
Army Test 2
Map: Castle Dracula (Custom Map)
Units: Team 1 (2,000): Sentry/Void (1,000), Captain America (240), Avengers Iron Man (270), Ms. Marvel (350), Falcon (140)
Team 2 (1,990): Cyclops II (240), Logan Wolverine (280), Archangel (260), Nightcrawler II (210), AoA Magneto (355), AoA Colossus (315), AoA Shadowcat (185), Blink (145)
Pre-game thoughts: A massive throwdown to see how Void plays with allies. Is he significantly worse when he can Infini-Tendril your own forces?
Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!
Round 1: T1 wins initiative
-Troops advance and Scott fires from a distance, but no damage is done
Round 2: T1 wins initiative
-Tony inflicts a wound on Kitty
-Kitty inflicts a wound on Tony
-Logan inflicts a wound on Tony
-Sentry inflicts 3 wounds on Logan
-Sentry inflicts 2 wounds on Nightcrawler and 1 wound on Logan
-Scott inflicts a wound on Sentry
-Sentry inflicts 2 wounds on Scott
-Sentry warps reality to inflict 2 wounds on Scott
-Carol inflicts 2 wounds on Logan
-Scott inflicts a wound on Sentry
Round 3: T2 wins initiative
-Cyclops unleashes some Optic Destruction, destroying Iron Man and inflicting 2 wounds on Wolverine
-Cap takes out Logan
-T2 had OM3 on Logan, so they lose a turn
-Archangel inflicts a wound on Senty
-Sentry inflicts a wound on Kitty and takes out Cyclops
-Sentry warps reality to heal himself
Round 4: T1 wins initiative
-Magneto inflicts 3 wounds on Sentry
-Cap inflicts 2 wounds on Archangel
-Kurt inflicts 2 wounds on Sentry
-Carol inflicts a wound on Colossus
-Colossus inflicts a wound on Sentry
-Sentry inflicts a wound on Archangel and 3 wounds on Colossus
-Sentry warps reality to heal himself, but then gets possessed by Void
-Colossus inflicts 2 wounds on Void
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Carol
Round 5: T1 wins initiative
-Magneto inflicts 2 wounds on Void
-Void takes out Colossus
-Archangel inflicts a wound on Cap
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Archangel
-T2 had OM1 on Colossus, so they lose a turn
-Void takes out Archangel
-Magneto inflicts a wound on Void
-Void inflicts 2 wounds on Magneto
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Nightcrawler
-Nightcrawler inflicts 2 wounds on Void
Round 6: T2 wins initiative
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Carol
-Cap takes out Kitty
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Carol
-Infini-Tendrils take out Nightcrawler
-T2 had OM3 on Kitty, so they lose a turn
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Magneto
-Sentry returns, but Void gives him an Instability Marker
Round 7: T2 wins initiative
-Magneto takes out Carol
-Blink inflicts 2 wounds on Cap, sending him all the way back to his SZ
-T1 had OM2 on Carol, so they lose a turn
-Magneto inflicts a wound on Sentry
-Sentry inflicts 2 wounds on Magneto
-Sentry warps reality to heal himself
Round 8: T2 wins initiative
-Magneto takes out Sentry, and Void emerges
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Cap
-Void takes out Magneto
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Blink
-Blink inflicts 3 wounds on Void
-Infini-Tendrils take out Cap
-Void inflicts a wound on Blink
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Blink
Round 9: T1 wins initiative
-Void takes out Blink
Special power usages:
Normal attack: 9 wounds inflicted (2 on Colossus, 2 on Archangel, 3 on Magneto, 2 on Blink)
Infini-Tendrils: 6 wounds inflicted on enemies (1 on Archangel, 2 on Nightcrawler, 1 on Magneto, 2 on Blink), 5 wounds inflicted on allies (3 on Ms. Marvel, 2 on Captain America)
Seeping: R6, 1 Instability Marker placed
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Void (10/12 wounds), Falcon (0/4 wounds)
NOTE: Does Magneto’s before-round turn count as a player turn? I played it as no.
Post-game thoughts: That actually felt pretty good! Void did tear through his own forces a bit, but the upsides that Sentry gets for having allies around felt like they cancelled that out.
It does seem like the pair is coming in a tad hot though, having won fairly handily twice in a row.
Army Test 3
Map: Castle Dracula
Units: Team 1 (1,175): Sentry and Void (1,000), Venom (175)
Team 2 (1,175): Mister Fantastic (235), Invisible Woman (215), The Thing (325), Silver Surfer (400)
Pre-game thoughts: Venom Sentry. (Trying Void at L8, A7, Double Attack that must be on different figures)
Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!
Round 1: T1 wins initiative
-Venom bonds with Sentry
-Surfer inflicts 2 wounds on Sentry
Round 2: T2 wins initiative
-Surfer inflicts a wound on Sentry
-Sentry takes a LEA from Surfer
-Sentry inflicts a wound on Sue
-Sentry warps reality to heal
-Surfer inflicts 2 wounds on Sentry
-Sentry inflicts 3 wounds on Surfer and a wound on Reed
Round 3: T1 wins initiative
-Sentry is possessed by Void
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Surfer
-Surfer inflicts 2 wounds on Void
-Void inflicts a wound on Sue
-Ben inflicts 3 wounds on Void
-Sue inflicts a wound on Void
-Void takes out Sue and Surfer
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Ben
-Ben takes out Void
Special power usages:
Normal attack: 7 wounds inflicted (5 on Sue, 2 on Surfer)
Infini-Tendrils: 2 wounds inflicted on enemies (1 on Surfer, 1 on Ben), 0 wounds inflicted on allies
Seeping: N/A
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Mister Fantastic (1/5 wounds), Thing (1/6 wounds) (Venom was alive unwounded too, just off the battlefield.)
Post-game thoughts: The double attack feels really thematic and scary - he feels far more like a threat to multiple heroes at once like he did in Siege or the original mini-series. But the 8L5D combo is just too squishy when he takes Sentry out with him.
Army Test 4
Map: Castle Dracula (Custom Map)
Units: Team 1 (1810): Void, Sentry (1,000), Martian Manhunter III (340), Batman III (250), Black Canary III (220)
Team 2 (1810): Hela (525), Draugr Thrall x5, (475) Thor (430), Asgardian Warrior x2 (380)
Pre-game thoughts: Mainly trying to feel how S&V feel up against a real Event Hero type build. If Hela can get Sentry as a Thrall, that feels like a pretty solid win for her. (Trying Void at 10L)
Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!
Round 1: T1 wins initiative
-An Asgardian Warrior (AW) inflicts a wound on Sentry
-Sentry inflicts a wound on an AW
-Sentry warps reality to inflict 2 wounds on Thor
Round 2: T1 wins initiative
-Sentry inflicts 2 wounds on Thor and 1 wound on an AW
-Sentry inflicts 3 wounds on Thor and a wound on an AW
-Sentry warps reality to take out Thor
-T2 had OM2 and OM3 on Thor, so they lose those turns
-Sentry takes a LEA from an AW
-Sentry inflicts 1 wound on Hela, and 1 wound each on 4 different Thralls
Round 3: T1 wins initiative
-Sentry is taken over by Void
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Hela
-Thralls inflict 5 wounds on Void
-Void takes out 2 Thralls
-Hela inflicts 3 wounds on Void
-Hela brings back Thor
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Hela
Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-Canary takes a LEA from an AW
-Canary takes out an AW
-Void inflicts 3 wounds on Hela
-A Thrall inflicts a wound on Void
-Infini-Tendrils inflicts a wound on Canary
-Void inflicts a wound on Hela
-Sentry returns to the battlefield, but Void places a marker on his card
-An AW inflicts a wound on Sentry
-Sentry inflicts a wound on a Thrall
-Sentry warps reality to inflict 2 wounds on Thor
Round 5: T2 wins initiative
-Thor inflicts 4 wounds on Sentry
-Canary inflicts a wound on an AW
-Sentry takes out Hela and a Thrall, and inflicts a wound on an additional Thrall
-Sentry warps reality to heal himself
-A Thrall inflicts 2 wounds on Sentry
-Sentry is possessed by Void
-Infini-Tendrils take out Thor
-A Thrall takes out Void
Round 6: T2 wins initiative
-An AW inflicts a wound on Canary
-Manhunter inflicts a wound on an AW
-Manhunter takes out an AW
-Manhunter inflicts a wound on a Thrall
Round 7: T2 wins initiative
-A Thrall takes out Canary, but in dying she takes out one of them as well
-A Thrall inflicts a wound on Manhunter
-Manhunter takes out the last Thrall
Special power usages:
Normal attack: 4 wounds inflicted (4 on Draugr Thralls)
Infini-Tendrils: 3 wounds inflicted on enemies (2 on Hela, 1 on Thor), 1 wounds inflicted on allies (1 on Canary)
Seeping: R4: 1 marker placed
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Batman (0/4 wounds), Martian Manhunter (1/6 wounds)
Post-game thoughts: Sentry had a pretty massive impact here, trashing Thor surprisingly quickly and making a straight beeline for Hela’s SZ. Void felt okay, but he’s just not the damage dealer Sentry is.
THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I imagine we’ll still be tinkering with his life values and such throughout playtesting, but the double attack gives him a real edge he didn’t have before. He definitely feels good with Sentry, helping you not have to waste 4 whole turns just to have him come back.
GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: I think he’s in a good place. He’s an asset, but you want to get Sentry back as soon as possible, which feels thematic.
The one thing I didn't get to hit here that I wanted to was a Sentry-less game to test how he feels just as a solo Event Hero. Definitely something I want to see in playtesting. I imagine he'll be really good friends with guys like Jason and Terminator who can brush off the damage he deals.
I'd like to propose a VOTE for Sanctum Testing with these changes.
Quote:
NAME = VOID
SECRET IDENTITY = ROBERT REYNOLDS
SPECIES = ENTITY
UNIQUENESS = EVENT HERO
CLASS = DESTROYER
PERSONALITY = MALEVOLENT
SIZE/HEIGHT = LARGE 5
LIFE = 10
MOVE = 4
RANGE = 3
ATTACK = 7
DEFENSE = 5
POINTS = 500
COUNTERBALANCE TO ALL THAT IS GOOD
You may draft one other Robert Reynolds figure that has the Unstable personality. If you do, Void starts the game on that Robert Reynolds's card. You may only control one Robert Reynolds at a time. When placing your other Robert Reynolds on, or removing him from, the battlefield, switch him with Void. Void will not take leaving engagement attacks when moved this way. Immediately after revealing an Order Marker on your other Robert Reynolds's Army Card, if that figure is not on the battlefield, you may take a turn with Void.
SEEPING THROUGH THE CRACKS
When Void is removed from the battlefield and switched with another Robert Reynolds, immediately roll the 20-sided die X times, subtracting 4 from the roll if you only control Robert Reynolds figures. For each roll of 4 or lower, place a purple Instability Marker on that Robert Reynolds's card. X is the current round number.
INFINI-TENDRILS
After attacking with Void, he may attack an additional time, targeting a different figure. At the end of each player's turn, if Void is on the battlefield, they may choose a figure on the battlefield other than Void and roll an unblockable attack die against that figure.
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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Looking great here! I like that you still want to try to get back to being Sentry, even if Void is pretty scary. It's neat how that worked out. But also at the same time, if Sentry still feels TOO powerful compared to Void, we can tweak Sentry as well. He's a powerhouse, adjusting him a tad wouldn't be an issue.
I’d be interested to see at least one game without Sentry. Almost certainly won’t be his optimal setting, but Infini-Tendrils all game could be nasty if paired with Jason or units that can heal.
December 3rd, 2020, 01:28 AM
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