Ch1can0´s Custom Maps - for 2 MS - New Map: Escher Infinity

[cavie]

This is awesome chicano! This is exactly the kind of stuff I like adding to maps/scenarios to keep the game interesting. Please add this to my changing terrain scenarios thread, I love it!

http://www.heroscapers.com/community...read.php?t=529

[Ch1can0]

Hi guys, thx for your feedback =)

cavie: i´ve posted my additions to your changing terrain thread.

shakey_snake: Good questions! I have some ideas but first a little map update:



Yellow spots now mark the occupied brandar switches and how the bridge moves accordingly. At the beginning of the game, there will be no bridge until the first brandar glyph is occupied.

Two make it more attractive to get to the bridge, there are roads now. On the right side i will add some more glyphs, perhaps a scenario goal. Chaning the ruins positions is an idea to "force" the teams to use the bridges, thx shakey_snake! ...or i just flood the valley? I think a playtest will show. =)

If a figure is on the spot where the bridge should move:

1) The bridge moves and the figure is pushed down from that tile. But it might be a problem if where is already standing another figure...

2) simpler rule would be that the bridge just can´t move as long as the connecting tile is occupied. The figure on that tile may get a wound everytime for blocking the bridge? ...not sure about that.

I will try to post the finished "Bridge Switch" Scenario PDF tomorrow.

Chicano.

[shakey_snake]

Originally Posted by Ch1can0

2) simpler rule would be that the bridge just can´t move as long as the connecting tile is occupied. The figure on that tile may get a wound everytime for blocking the bridge? ...not sure about that.

With Magma Mountain, I had the boat dock to the river banks on molten lava. maybe you could put that there.
If a lavaguy or Brunak sits on the lava space, then the bridge can't move.

[reapersaurus]

has anyone tried Mount Rush?
How hard would it be to increase the height, so that the Mount was harder to get up to when taking the uncontested "shortcut" that is created when the 2-hex pieces make it accessible?
And it's hard to tell form the pic - is it exactly symmetrical? It looked in the build photo like some of the water heights/climbs were unequal between the two sides.

But these look GREAT, and I'm very interested in reports about the 2 maps that have changeable terrain.

[Ch1can0]

shakey_snake: yes, that´s a possible way to do it, but sadly not for me, as i have no vw...

But i solved the problem in a rude way

If the bridge moves to a tile and a figure is standing there, the figure will be smashed and destroyed by the bridge. So you rather will not try to block the bridge.

reapersaurus: thanks for your feedback! I couldn´t test the maps myself yet, cause latley had no chance to gather with friends for hs and now with the soccer worldcup in germany...

My two latest maps aren´t 100% symmetrical/mirrored as most of my maps, but i tried to build similar sides and balance the scenarios.

Bridge Switch is released!

[Ch1can0]

Hi Scaper,

there was a tile in the way to place the lower left ruin properly, sorry, but it´s fixed now!

As the map is rather small, i was thinking to add some fog to the map (range -2 or -3) not sure about that, please tell me how the scenario worked, if you play it, thx!

Chicano.

[reapersaurus]

Originally Posted by Ch1can0

My two latest maps aren´t 100% symmetrical/mirrored as most of my maps, but i tried to build similar sides and balance the scenarios.

Is there any way you could find the time/effort to build them symmetrical, or would that be rather difficult?

And if you could build up the sides of the Mount to make it harder to access once the 2-hex pieces come in, I think that would make it a stronger scenario.

I know this might go past a 1-MS requirement, if you have that, but could you just use however many hexes to make it work that way and post it as a variant, 2-MS map?

I'm thinking about running this at the NorCal GameDay, and would love to get that alternate version of the map.

[AmishBurrito]

great stuff ch1cano, keep them coming, if you keep making them i'll keep using them

[dra(gon)]

deutsche wertarbeit
great work Ch1can0
i get in some days my 3 rttff sets , then i could buldid a big brige.
i hade some switch idea too with lava and watter. for tundara could a lava switch melt glaciers. that switch ida could lift plattfrorms too.

the problem is only a good looking map. when the castel comes are better solutions why a brige can switch.

[Ch1can0]

thx every1 for your feedback.

Originally Posted by reapersaurus

Is there any way you could find the time/effort to build them symmetrical, or would that be rather difficult?

Hi reapersaurus, it would be rather impossible =) A 100% symmetrical map has a center spot and the opposite sides are always exactly the same. Mount rush with a hill (not in the center of the map) and a "U" forming the outer part and "bridge switch" with the moving bridge between 3 points can´t be build 100% symmetrical, but they are as symmatrical as possible

Originally Posted by reapersaurus

And if you could build up the sides of the Mount to make it harder to access once the 2-hex pieces come in, I think that would make it a stronger scenario.

In cavies thread i wrote 2 variations: To place the 2. connecting tiles a round later oder i build some water around the map. The 1. Variation would be simpler and a more effective way, as also flying units are stopped by the gap, but not by water...

Originally Posted by reapersaurus

I know this might go past a 1-MS requirement, if you have that, but could you just use however many hexes to make it work that way and post it as a variant, 2-MS map?

mmmh, both maps are already 2 MS maps, or do i missunderstand your question?

Originally Posted by reapersaurus

I'm thinking about running this at the NorCal GameDay, and would love to get that alternate version of the map.

Hey, that would be cool... Here is a variation, the teams doesn´t start so close together anymore... hope the scenario could be used, or do you always play 100% symmetrical only?

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[reapersaurus]

The bridge scenario, while VERY cool in concept, is a bit too much change-ability to try on a GameDay, I'd guess.
I was interested in the Mount scenario to try. And it seemed like it could be made symmetrical...? I thought it was mirror-able?

And I didn't notice they were 2 MS maps already. OK, make them 3 MS.
Anything to pump up the height on the Mount so someone can't just (basically) waltz up the side of the Mountain once the 2-hexes open up a land bridge on the side.
I understand that one could always just delay the land bridge till later rounds if it was a problem, but what I liked about the scenario is that there were multiple ways that could be done. As long as someone wanted to invest the right units and enough order markers, he might be able to rush around the side and make it to the top of the Mount, but not too easily at all. I liked the 2 directions that a general could send his troops.

[Ch1can0]

Originally Posted by reapersaurus

The bridge scenario, while VERY cool in concept, is a bit too much change-ability to try on a GameDay, I'd guess.

mmmh, o.k. i couldn´t test it yet, so i understand your concern but i believe that the rules are quite clear & simple.

Originally Posted by reapersaurus

I was interested in the Mount scenario to try. And it seemed like it could be made symmetrical...? I thought it was mirror-able?

symmetrical and mirror-able isn´t the same. You can turn a big hextile by 180° to make it symmetrical, but you can´t flip the big tile to place it mirrored. Mmmh, i think some pics might explain it better (-:

symmetrical - but not mirrored. tile was turned around 180°


mirrored - but not possible. As you can´t flip the tile, the right one simply doesn´t exist.


mirrored - rebuild so you have to rebuild the shape to get it 100% mirrored


And Mount Rush ist not a symmetrical map, it´s "mirror-style". But it would be a big waste of tiles to make it 100% mirrored. It can´t be done imo, but i´m repeating myself...

Originally Posted by reapersaurus

And I didn't notice they were 2 MS maps already.

Hey, does the map looks like such a waste of tiles ?!?

Originally Posted by reapersaurus

OK, make them 3 MS.

Sir, Yes, Sir.

Originally Posted by reapersaurus

Anything to pump up the height on the Mount so someone can't just (basically) waltz up the side of the Mountain once the 2-hexes open up a land bridge on the side.
I understand that one could always just delay the land bridge till later rounds if it was a problem, but what I liked about the scenario is that there were multiple ways that could be done. As long as someone wanted to invest the right units and enough order markers, he might be able to rush around the side and make it to the top of the Mount, but not too easily at all. I liked the 2 directions that a general could send his troops.

I´m not a fan of to many levels, not because i don´t have enough sets, rather because i believe that it just slows down the movement of walking units. And flying units ignoring heights get an even bigger advantage.

But an easy way to add high to Mount Rush would be just to add every level/layer twice from the second or third layer on=higher mount. Because i don´t know if i can make a new pdf until your gameday. And i´m still not sure if you want the scenario at all, as it will not be 100% .... you know

Bye, Chicano.