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Old June 17th, 2017, 04:32 PM
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Re: The Book of Black Mask (II) (Breathing)

The only one's class being replaced that I see a potential issue with, is Mad Hatter's class of Mastermind pairs well with Penguin since he needs an OM to start Tea Party. It's not something that's a deal breaker by any means, but that's the only change that might affect him negatively.
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I was initially thinking replace as well but with the OM requirement would that mean they have no class once Black Mask dies?
No, because the power doesn't remove their base class, it just overwrites it while the power is in effect.

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Re: The Book of Black Mask (II) (Breathing)

I'd also err on the side of the "instead of" wording, to play it safe.

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I was initially thinking replace as well but with the OM requirement would that mean they have no class once Black Mask dies?
No, with the "instead of" wording, they just go back to whatever their normal class is when Black Mask doesn't have an OM or he's taken out of the game.

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The only one's class being replaced that I see a potential issue with, is Mad Hatter's class of Mastermind pairs well with Penguin since he needs an OM to start Tea Party. It's not something that's a deal breaker by any means, but that's the only change that might affect him negatively.
I think that's a pretty small price to pay, and you can always get that Penguin/Hatter team-up by playing without Black Mask.
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Re: The Book of Black Mask (II) (Breathing)

I'd agree that it's a small price to pay, and that you don't always need to draft Black Mask. Also, you don't need to put an OM on him, which would allow you to keep Mad Hatter a Mastermind for that round. So it's likely the better and safer route to take.
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Re: The Book of Black Mask (II) (Breathing)

My first thought is - is there any reason you're not making a design for Jeremiah Arkham here? He was the second Black Mask and is mostly known for freeing the inmates from the Asylum and being actually insane. Sionis doesn't really deserve the "Insane" moniker to me. The only difference is that Arkham isn't really known for torture the same way.

Otherwise direction seems solid to me, the restriction on his Criminal Recruitment is definitely advisable.
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Re: The Book of Black Mask (II) (Breathing)

Yeah, the Insane ties here would be super-thematic on Jeremiah Arkham, but I'm not up enough on Sionis to really say one way or the other.
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Re: The Book of Black Mask (II) (Breathing)

I thought about it, but ultimately Sionis is the one I'm familiar with. I'm fine with changing his personality from Insane to Ruthless if that helps make it feel more like Sionis. The theme being that Sionis would have no qualms about who he hires, is certifiably insane in his own sadistic way, and has taken over the Gotham Underworld on a couple of occasions as he's an expert strategist. So I felt that was more fitting to Sionis.

Jeremiah wouldn't be a bad route to take eventually. Perhaps with a more focus specifically on the Insane and working with the Arkham inmates directly.
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Re: The Book of Black Mask (II) (Breathing)

Updated SP with suggested changes, as well as his personality from Insane to Ruthless to stay more in-line with Sionis while leaving Insane for eventual Jeremiah.

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Re: The Book of Black Mask (II) (Vote for Initial Playtestin

YEA

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of Black Mask (II) (Vote for Initial Playtestin

I'm a bit iffy on the idea of a blanket Insane recruitment for Sionis - he's sort of a step beyond Penguin where he's regularly hired nutjobs in the past but has never really made an army out of them. To my knowledge at least.

I'll Yea though all the same and see how it runs in practice.
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