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Old January 3rd, 2021, 10:08 AM
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Re: The Book of Cardboard Box (Breathing)

Or just make it a large box. Though Hiding Spot could probably just clarify that medium figures can occupy it.

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Re: The Book of Cardboard Box (Breathing)

Ultimately, I think defining a cardboard box as a vehicle (and really, as one of our first vehicles) is a pretty big stretch, but mechanically it works so I won't complain too much.
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Re: The Book of Cardboard Box (Breathing)

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Ultimately, I think defining a cardboard box as a vehicle (and really, as one of our first vehicles) is a pretty big stretch, but mechanically it works so I won't complain too much.
You need to hang out with Bat Kid more often if you think that.

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Re: The Book of Cardboard Box (VOTE for Initial)

I'd like to call a VOTE for Initial Playtesting.

Went with 20 points to start just to make it a round 200 with Snake.
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Re: The Book of Cardboard Box (VOTE for Initial)

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Re: The Book of Cardboard Box (VOTE for Initial)

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Re: The Book of Cardboard Box (VOTE for Initial)

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Re: The Book of Cardboard Box (VOTE for Initial)

yea. Crazy thing to say about a 20 point unit, but wouldn't be surprised if that drops in testing.

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Re: The Book of Cardboard Box (VOTE for Initial)

Yea

And for the record that complaint is like: we already have mechanical baggage for what a "vehicle" means. Mechanics can fix them, pilots are better at operating them, engineers can soup them up. I think we should be careful about what we define as a "vehicle" if we're going to be giving them specific mechanical baggage like that, or vice-versa, if we're defining them loosely try to stay more generic with powers that interact with them.
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Re: The Book of Cardboard Box (VOTE for Initial)

I think all of those things apply to a cardboard box as well. (Just like they do for the Elevator Car).

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Re: The Book of Cardboard Box (VOTE for Initial)

yea

For this design, I don't mind the theme wonkiness as much, as it's already a bit of a joke in-universe. Good point about being careful about the VDO designation though.
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Re: The Book of Cardboard Box (VOTE for Initial)

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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Cardboard Box

Army Test 1
Map: Ivyís Greenhouse
Units: Team 1 (600): Cardboard Box (20), Solid Snake (180), Nebula (240), Shocker (160)
Team 2 (600): Black Canary I (190), Green Arrow (150), Red Arrow (150), Oracle (110)


Pre-game thoughts: Shocker and Nebula are going to try to take on the Canary/Arrows combo head-on, while Snake sneakily flanks behind to try to take out Oracle. Started with a fairly big map to get a feeling of the speed of the box.

Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!

Post-game thoughts: The box definitely felt too slow to be effective here, but part of that feels like map size. Shocker falling quickly certainly didnít help either. The sneaking feels fun and evocative, just something Iím going to keep an eye on going forward.
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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl (No Glyphs)
Units: Team 1 (1,000): Cardboard Box (15), Solid Snake (180), Captain America (240), Captain America (Bradley) (200), Sgt. Rock (175), Guile (130), Bucky (60)
Team 2 (1,000): Court of Owls (200), Talon x4 (560), Lady Deathstrike (240)


Pre-game thoughts: Snake is going to try to go after the Owls here. 2 Talons are getting 3 Electrum Markers each.

Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!

Post-game thoughts: Even on a smaller map, the box still felt too slow to be effective. (Especially since Bradley basically does what itís doing way better.) I think Iím going to up both the normal move number and the sneaky move number up to 3.
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Army Test 3
Map: Conflict Chernobyl (No Glyphs)
Units: Team 1 (650): Star-Lord (250), Jack Flag (190), Comedian (160), Wasp I (50)
Team 2 (650): Wonder Girl (Cassie II) (200), Robin (Tim II) (150), Secret (120), Liíl Lobo (180)


Pre-game thoughts: Upped both moves to 3. In this game, I just randomly scattered 6 Boxes around the map for anyone to take advantage of.

Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!

Post-game thoughts: Man, T1 never stood a chance here, lol.

Cardboard Boxes actually felt like a good amount of strategic fun, but I think T2 was able to leverage them way better, putting even more steam in their steamroller. Robin was able to hide in one to give himself a little extra security, and it was fun to bash them around with Lobo in order to block enemy movement.
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Theyíre obviously going to be most useful with Snake, and I donít think Iíd draft them much other than that. However, upping the move should help them feel better and having a solid 200 point block with Snake is cool.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Felt fun both as an extension of the Snake design and as a random DO placed on the map.

I do think Hiding Spot could be simplified, since it was never used - so much simpler to just take out the box than worry about all that nonsense.
Finally finished this here.

I was thinking, is there an easy way to rework Hiding Spot so you essentially get to choose when it's a Full Cover or Partial Cover thing? I think simplifying the power to that is fine, since I never used it otherwise.
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