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Old March 12th, 2021, 01:43 AM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

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Hmm, the one concern is that if he basically has disengage, there's no real penalty for just moving away one space every turn and attacking from range, then getting the double attack if he misses. So maybe something where he can't be engaged at the start of his turn?
That's a good call.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old March 12th, 2021, 01:49 AM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

Or even just if he attacks a figure he wasn't engaged with at the start of his turn. So he can still buzz past the bodyguards to go after the main target.

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Old March 17th, 2021, 10:27 PM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

Thought the criminals could use a speedster, with the glyph stealing and Sense stopping, this guy could prove a nightmare for street level heroes. [Spidey, Bats, and DD watch out!]

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NAME = SPEED DEMON
SECRET IDENTITY = JAMES SANDERS

SPECIES = MUTATE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CRIMINAL
PERSONALITY = ARROGANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 11
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 235?


SUPERSPEED
Speed Demon may move through all figures, never takes leaving engagement attacks, and does not have to stop his movement when entering water spaces. After taking a turn with Speed Demon, if he did not use his Sinister Strikes Special Attack this turn, he may move up to an additional 4 spaces.

SINISTER STRIKES SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
Speed Demon may attack up to X times with this special attack to a maximum of 5, where X is the number of Unique Heroes you control that are Assassins, Criminals, or Thieves. He must attack the same figure with each subsequent attack. The defending figure may not be moved by any special power on any Army Card.

THIEVING SPEEDSTER
If an opponent rolls the 20-sided die for a figure attacked by Speed Demon’s normal attack, you may subtract 6 from or add 6 to the roll. After attacking, if the defending figure received one or more wounds and there is not a glyph on this card, you may choose an Equipment Glyph on the defending figure’s card and place that glyph on this card.
edit: Doc Ock 250 and the rest of the Syndicate plus 235 is 1200, so a 235 Speed Demon would be cool, plus a good point cost for baddie and speedster armies. Boomerang is an Assassin so it doesn't actually matter that much since Ock can't grab him.

Changed first power to regular Superspeed for synergy. It also takes him more effort to steal a glyph, but with Superspeed he should be able to get away once he has it.

I reworked an SA for him to work with Beetle, they both go all or nothing on the army lasting long enough, so big success or massive flop for the Sinister Syndicate could be a fun risk/reward army.

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Old March 18th, 2021, 06:19 AM
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That's pretty cool. If you're going away from Super Speed in the first power, I'd consider cutting the extra movement spaces after taking a turn to help streamline it a bit.

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Old March 21st, 2021, 05:03 AM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

Takin' a whack at a negative cost card here.

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NAME = DEEP COVER/DOUBLE AGENT

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNCOMMON HERO
CLASS = SPY
PERSONALITY = DECEPTIVE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 2

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 3

POINTS = -???


HIDDEN AGENDA
Any player may place Order Markers on and take turns with this card and this Deep Cover Agent may not be targeted for an attack until an opponent’s Order Marker is revealed on this card.

SHIFTING ALLEGIANCES
Any player who does not control this card may remove an Investment Marker from a card that they control to gain control of this card. If they do, this card has the Class of Agent instead of what is listed on this card and the Hidden Agenda special power cannot be used for the rest of the game.
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Old March 21st, 2021, 11:13 AM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

Interesting. Unless you're in a match with someone with an Investment Marker, though, I think it's still (just) worth positive points, though.

You basically get two values out of it beyond just its base stats so far as I can tell:

1. You can run him into enemy figures and tie them up in engagement and make him annoying enough to deal with that

2. You sort of force the opponent to take at least one turn with him (wasting what they might otherwise do) so they can attack and eliminate him

Now if they can easily take full control of him (though still at the cost of an Investment Marker) that might change things, but I'm not sure he's quite worth negative points outside of that match up. Maybe 5-10, though.

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Old March 21st, 2021, 11:48 AM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

I think there needs to be a way for opponents to obtain an Investment Marker.
Maybe giving up a player turn or getting into your SZ.
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Old March 21st, 2021, 12:56 PM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

Could add something like "This card starts the game with X Investment Markers... whenever an opponent reveals an Order Marker on this card they may place an Investment Marker from this card onto the card of a Unique Hero they control." onto the first power.
So either anyone could easily gain permanent control or in the rare case mine him for cash if for some reason it's more beneficial, like he's hijacking money/intel/something from you for Bruce or Penguin or Shaw.
He could also have Agent synergy fulltime for the other side with OM reveals.
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Old March 21st, 2021, 11:46 PM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

Revised for ultimate negatory costings.

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NAME = DEEP COVER AGENT

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNCOMMON HERO
CLASS = SPY
PERSONALITY = DECEPTIVE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 2

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 3

POINTS = -???


HIDDEN AGENDA
This card starts the game with 3 Investment Markers. Any player may place Order Markers on and take turns with this card. Whenever an opponent reveals an Order Marker on this card, they may place an Investment Marker from this card onto the card of a Unique Hero they control. You may not target this Deep Cover Agent for an attack until after an opponent’s Order Marker has been revealed on this card.

SHIFTING ALLEGIANCES
At the end of the round, any player who does not control this card may remove an Investment Marker from a card that they control to gain control of this card. If they do, this card has the Class of Agent instead of what is listed on this card and the Hidden Agenda special power cannot be used for the rest of the game.

DOUBLE ATTACK
When this Deep Cover Agent attacks, he may attack one additional time.
And Double Attack, because why not.
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Old March 22nd, 2021, 01:24 AM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

@Karat and I worked on a design for Quan Chi!

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NAME = QUAN CHI

SPECIES = DEMON
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = SORCERER
PERSONALITY = CUNNING

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 4
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 3

POINTS = 250?


BRUTAL BEATDOWN
After attacking an adjacent figure with Quan Chi’s normal attack, if that figure has 1 life remaining, you must remove all unrevealed Order Markers on this card and destroy that figure.

SKELETAL BOOST
Start the game with a red and blue Skeletal marker. Once per game, before taking a turn with Quan Chi, you may place a Skeletal marker on this card. While the red Skeletal marker is on this card, you may add one automatic skull to whatever is rolled when making a normal attack. While the blue Skeletal marker is on this card, after taking a turn with Quan Chi, you may remove a wound marker from this card. If Quan Chi receives one or more wounds, remove the Skeletal marker from this card.

NETHERREALM NECROMANCY
Once per game, after an opponent’s Unique Hero within clear sight of Quan Chi is destroyed, you may reveal the "X" Order Marker to take control of that Hero and its Army Card, place it in your Start Zone, and remove all Wound Markers from its Army Card. For the rest of the game, that Hero's Species is now Undead instead of what is listed on its card. At the end of each round, the player who controlled that Hero may roll the 20-sided die. If 17 or higher is rolled, control of that Hero and its army card return to the player who controlled it before Netherrealm Necromancy. Netherrealm Necromancy never affects Undead, Androids, Constructs, or destructible objects.

MAGICAL DEFENSE
When Quan Chi is attacked by an opponent's figure that does not have the Magical Defense special power, the most wounds Quan Chi can take for this attack is one.
Four powers is a lot, so I could see one being dropped. Brutal Beatdown might be a lot. Also just noticed Shang Tsung doesn't have Magical Defense, must of been a lot going on for him as well. It'd be cool to get the Deadly Alliance going.

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Old March 22nd, 2021, 09:20 AM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

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Revised for ultimate negatory costings.

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NAME = DEEP COVER AGENT

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNCOMMON HERO
CLASS = SPY
PERSONALITY = DECEPTIVE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 2

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 3

POINTS = -???


HIDDEN AGENDA
This card starts the game with 3 Investment Markers. Any player may place Order Markers on and take turns with this card. Whenever an opponent reveals an Order Marker on this card, they may place an Investment Marker from this card onto the card of a Unique Hero they control. You may not target this Deep Cover Agent for an attack until after an opponent’s Order Marker has been revealed on this card.

SHIFTING ALLEGIANCES
At the end of the round, any player who does not control this card may remove an Investment Marker from a card that they control to gain control of this card. If they do, this card has the Class of Agent instead of what is listed on this card and the Hidden Agenda special power cannot be used for the rest of the game.

DOUBLE ATTACK
When this Deep Cover Agent attacks, he may attack one additional time.
And Double Attack, because why not.
Hmm, so in practice seems like the best move for the drafting player is to take him along with someone like Penguin (II) who just wants extra Investment Markers. And the best move of the opponent is just to reveal Order Markers on him three times to grab all the Investment Markers, then take permanent control of the figure. Although he probably won't even still be alive, because the other thing the opponent should do is start zone bomb you with those double attacks and try to take out your key figures on those Order Marker reveals, which means after the first Order Marker reveal you're going to go hard at trying to kill them.

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Old March 22nd, 2021, 11:54 AM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

Thanks for the insight Bats! I think I made it so only opponents can get markers and buy loyalty, can Penguin or someone still snag them if you were to draft this guy?
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